Wlad vs Bowe

I am a big Klitschko fan but you mention Peter...the awful Sam Peter put Wlad down 3 times and could have won that fight. Should have, in fact. Do people really not think that Bowe would do what Peter did and then a bit more?

This is a man who had fast hands, great technique, a good shot and a granite chin. He beat a prime Holyfield and lost once in his entire career. Sure, he didn't beat the best quality, no, but Eddie Futch said he was the most talented heavyweight he ever had. That's serious praise.

He just has so much more than Klitschko. Importantly, he isn't going to stand there and eat jabs. Look at his footwork! It's the best I've ever seen on a big man. Watch him turn Holyfield around, like he's the former cruiser.

Bowe was just the better fighter.

 

Exactly, another good post.

Pity the poll does not reflect the truth.

 

Well, that's the issue with Bowe because, like Frazier, he had a one fight prime. You can look at Frazier's best performance, against Foster, however, there's a "but" and if I say Bowe's performance against Gonzalez, you'll add a "but" onto it, yeah?

I like Bowe, but I admit his resume is poor. The fact is, you can't look at his fights and say "he did this against him and in another fight he showed this" because he did have a one fight prime. He didn't commit himself to boxing after than and it's a shame.

So there is a lot of guesswork, to an extent, involved with Bowe. It's hard to rate his career because there are so few reference points. In my eyes, he had two great performances, against Holyfield and a man he despised and wanted to kill, Gonzalez. With Gonzalez, there is, as I said, a big "but", as he wasn't world class as a pro.

I think we can assume, knowing how tough Bowe was, he would get on the inside. Not that he would have to, because he wasn't much smaller than Klitschko and was very effective at long range.

 

Ditto:good

 

Fair enough man. :thumbsup

That's really the maddening thing about Bowe...if we project that fighter from the Holyfield fights, he's a H2H nightmare for anyone- Wlad, Tyson, and even the Lewis that we all wish he'd have fought if, for no other reason, than to see how he'd do against a quality big man while he was at his highest level. Thinking more on it, he also found a way to really only fight one puncher in an era that was loaded with them.

Truly a wild-card in fantasy matchups if there ever was one.

 

Wlad is yet to step into the ring with an animal like Bowe. This is not Tony Thompson we're talking about. Golota got hit when he "chose" to brawl and trade.

 

You know nothing about Golota, except what the media fed you.

 

The 2nd Golota fight is the best you'll ever see from Bowe. He wasn't even 30 years old... hardly past his prime. Golota ruined Bowe and his career. The punches Golota took from Bowe are punches that would have nearly killed Wlad.

 

If it's the current form of Wlad, Rock Newman would have blocked the fight from ever happening.

If it's the Wlad fight after Sanders, Bowe would take it but Wlad would still probably win but it would be very interesting.

But Bowe at his best vs. Wlad at his best - it's all Wlad.

 

Wlad doesn't know what a battle is, Bowe does. Now, Bowe-Vitali... that's another story.

 

Quality posts. :good

Bowe would force his way inside & turn it into a close-range brawl that Wlad wouldn't be able to win. Wlad can clinch well, but Bowe is one of the most brutal fighters in the clinches, so there would be no escaping the pressure of Bowe. Also Bowe would pressure Wlad to fight at a pace he is uncomfortable with, so Wlad would run out of gass, ready to be taken out by a vicous combination.

 

Bowe is too wide open.

You can't have a non-existent defense against Wlad and win (Lamon Brewster was a little weird)

Bowe gets hit all day and caves it in around the 10th.

 

Wlad has accomplished so much more than Bowe, although Wlad has the more stinging losses on his record.To beat a prime Bowe, you've got to know how to fight inside and fight dirty. Both Golota and Holy were experts at this. Wlad, on the other hand, simply hasn't shown this ability partly because no one has been able to consistently walk through his jab, at least in Wlad's prime. I believe Bowe would and would score a KO at some point. I really doubt Wlad can brawl and I think he would need to at some point with Bowe. Like others have pointed out, for all his discipline flaws and a very short prime window, Bowe does not present a good match up style wise for Wlad.

 

In the last few years, Wlad has shown to be too methodical and defensive for Riddick. He would not fight inside, toe to toe, against him.

I have to add that Riddick had a dance partner in Holyfield. Wlad would not go to war. The size would also be a disadvantage for Bowe.