Wlad vs Brewster 1

this is 100% true, its in the Klitschko movie.

direct from his lips.

shame he wasn't motivated enough to attempt to put right his loss to Brewster with an immediate rematch, instead waiting till brews was end of career. motivated enough? no sorry I mean skilled enough.

still, credit for rematching him at all, wlads not known for rematching his losses.

 

punchin yourself out when you are fully fit is basically a lack of skills.

 

Interesting, i wasnt aware he punched just that much, really, cos from memory he wasn't punching a lot, yet your stats seem to contradict what my memory tells me. Solution would be to watch the fight again to be sure, i might be doing that, last time i watched it was a few months after it had happened.

Fact for me: Wlad looked spent even before he got tagged cleanly and the course of the match offered me little explanation as to why that was so. Otherwise good post, brighton man. Quite liked Brighton when I last stayed there, on an unrelated note.

 

You just debunked your own argument.atsch Look at the gif.

http://i.minus.com/i38hczIHFbCjN.gif



Punching air with those big arms and shoulders will eat your stamina.

He doesn't have the punch variation outside the jab to stop Brewster and thats down to a limitation of skill.

He also doesn't have the fleet of foot to be anywhere else and is constantly in range of Brewster's fire power.
Again , a limitation of skills.

This is why to this very day , he refuses to throw in combination and clinches to rest every 10 seconds.

Go watch Douglas against Tyson to see how its done properly.

 

No way did Foreman throw 125 punches in round 7. He was dead in that round, he couldn't even walk across the ring without teetering he was that tired. I just rewatched it and he threw about 50 punches, most of them were not even real punches they were just touching Ali, I could throw with more force for 90% of the punches he threw in that round.

Chris Pontius did a punch count of the Rumble in the Jungle a while back. Foreman averaged 59 punches a round, 3 less per round than Wlad. He threw 301 punches in the first 5 rounds, 11 less than Wlad threw in 5 rounds against Brewster.

http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=28468

So a bigger man throws more punches in 5 rounds than when Foreman gassed against Ali yet it's not possible that Wlad gassed? :nut

 

I hadn't watched the full fight in some time but I remember him throwing a ton of punches in round 7. I just counted the number of punches he threw in that round and it totaled to 76. I'm not sure how this Chris Pontius gentleman counted that few number of punches (perhaps he didn't count the small arms punches that Foreman was throwing?) Anyways, It may have been in a different round that he threw close to 125 punches. I have to watch the full fight again. Thank you for correcting me but in a fight where George threw many punches, throwing 76 punches two full rounds after Klitschko had fatigued to the point of not being able to fight anymore, makes the direct comparison between the two fight null and void. My other points stand as well. There is simply no grounds to compare both fights with one another.

 

Have you ever seen Wlad fatigue that quickly in a fight before or since? He never did. I have never seen a fighter fatigue that quickly and totally in a fighter ever. I have a very hard time believing a conditioned athlete can tired that quickly, that abruptly without some sort of chemical assistance.

 

wlad lacked the skill to break down prime brewster, and paid for it. Brewster was simply too smat for wlad to break, and he beat him by making him use up his ineffective ****nal and then battering him senseless.

 

Serious question, the fight was stopped in between rounds. Not that he would have recovered but shouldn't they have allowed him back to the corner and let the doctor make the recomendation on stopping the fight?

just lends the conspiracy theorists more ammunition that it be stopped like that

 

Obviously Vitali didn't have a problem continuing to work with Fritz? Even though he's suspected of poisining his brother.

What a load of ****.

 

He collpased at the end of the round after taking numerous big shots and being staggered by them.

He was staggering around from those shots, it didnt take much to knock him after that. He didnt "take them well".
He was staggering around like Bambi after Brewster caught him with this left hook... http://boxrec.com/media/images/thumb/2/28/Lamon.jpg/300px-Lamon.jpg

In the Klitschko movie,Wlad said the ring doctor thought he suffered a brain hemmorage,his eyes were so dilated.
Your eyes dont get like that from being very tired.

 

Honestly no but then again he never really ever fought at such a frenetic pace before or after either. While there are fights where he threw a similar number of punches like the Mercer or the Brewster rematch in those fights he didn't expend as much energy between throwing his punches.

In the Brewster rematch when he clinched he just smothered Brewster and got his breath back and controlled the pace. In the first Brewster fight he isn't just clinching he's wrestling and pushing a 16 stone man. That on top of the punch output is what caused him to gas, it would cause any man at 240lbs plus to gas. If Lewis ever fought like Wlad did in this fight he'd gas as well.

The first Brewster fight is a bit of an anomaly because this was Wlad for the first time trying to implement what Steward had taught him. He clinched a lot in this fight which is now a signature part of his game but he didn't clinch against Brewster to control the pace or rest like he does now, he used it the manhandle and bully Brewster instead and that extra physical exertion on top of the high work rate caused him to gas. Luckily Wlad no longer fights like this.

 

Haven't you guys heard what happened? Are you familiar with ole jelly legs:think

 

Yes the medical records released after the fight said he had a grade 3 concussion. The punches clearly had an effect it wasn't just fatigue.

 

whilst the youtube video clearly shows wlad being outboxed by fringe contender Brewster.

It wasn't just fatigue it was lack of h2h boxing ability.