Wlad vs Povetkin clinch stats!

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  1. janitor

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    Realy????
     
  2. The Mongoose

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    I've seen far worse HW clinch fests, especially from Wlad who in this match was at least trying to land some short punches, actually having lots of success with his left hook. Povetkin has just become a marytr because so many of the usual suspects had convinced themsleves Wlad was ducking him, and he was going to pose some unique challenge.

    I called it when the fight was announced, Povetkin was Calvin Brock without the body work. We all know Wlad is going to be looking to clinch a shorter HW trying to rush him, why the surprise? Brock was prepared for it, he greeted Wlad with a hard right to the ribs everytime he even thought of trying to hug him.

    I have no sympathy for Povetkin, he basically fought the same way against Huck. Which despite being a more exciting and competive fight also had lots of hugging and wreslting over the way Povetkin just drops his head and bull rushes into his man. Huck was leaning on him too, what else could he do? If Povetkin actually went to the body like Brock, instead of loading up on wide diving punches over the top, he wouldn't have ended up in Wlad's crouch just as eager to clinch and reset.
     
  3. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Do you blame a slacker for sitting on the championship for three years without a defense? Is it sportsmanlike to clearly duck the two best available opponents over a 7 year "reign"? Is it sportsmanlike to be assisted back in the ring after your ass was knocked out of it?
     
  4. salty trunks

    salty trunks Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Agree with this. It was a horrible display of sportsmanship and anyone who thinks Wlad is an ATG off of these type of performances is a fool. Wlad along with Lennox Lewis should have been DQ'd in many fights. This particular fight was terrible, not even one warning to stop holding and leaning.
     
  5. salty trunks

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    I have never seen Wlad do it this badly. He should have been Dq'd. Povetkin should have kneed him in the nuts its just as bad as leaning with 250 pounds on your opponent. If I was training Povetkin I would have gotten in the refs face between every round. Blatant cheating with the ref in on it.
     
  6. The Mongoose

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    -Bull****.

    -I would have told Povetkin to quit head hunting and hit that big ******* in the ribs. All these fighters thinking they are going to Brewster him, look to the damn Brock fight, he won the 3 of the first 4 rounds, arguably all 4, stopped the clinching **** and forced Wlad into a fight by digging to the body.
     
  7. Barry Smith

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    Russia has a population of 1.5 billion people and this fight had a lot of investment and promotion put into it, however, the casuals and potential new fans of the sport who tuned in to watch that garbage won't be watching again, that's for sure.

    It was similar here in the UK with Wlad vs Haye. For the first time in years a heavyweight fight generated a lot of interest and excitement and the fight was being shown in pubs everywhere, again something very unusual these days. I went to the pub myself to watch it and the place was packed. It was an amazing opportunity for Wlad but by the end of the fight people were literally laughing at how bad it was. Now I know Haye was to blame too, but Wlad simply puts people off the sport, he is bad for boxing.
     
  8. The Mongoose

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    I'm sure you those are genuine tears for this potential Russian fanbase the HW division supposedly missed out on.

    The UK didn't seem to care that Haye/Valuev was an all time stinker so long as Haye got his hand raised at the end and was challenging Wlad. "He was just cautious, he was up against a giant blah blah blah He'll be more aggressive against that cowardly Klitschko "

    And when Fury/Wlad gets announced, you guys are going to be lining up around the block again. "He's not like Haye at all, he won't be scared, he's big and strong, he won't get pushed around. Wlad will know he's been in a fight this time blah blah blah"
     
  9. fists of fury

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    Fair enough, but why didn't Wlad take a step back and launch uppercuts?
     
  10. dinovelvet

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    Imagine if Valeuv reached out and leaned down on Hayes and other guys backs. Imagine how pathetic that would be. Well thats what you have with Wlad. He abuses his height and weight to the absolute limits and its all pre-arranged in the boardroom so he is allowed get away with it.

    Yes, guys boxed and clinched but Wlad clinches with a bit of box. It at a stage where his clinching and fouling has consumed all his boxing because thats the only way he can win a fight.

    From what I could gather Valeuv was a non- egotistical ,pretty decent fellow who wouldn't shame himself like that.
    Wlad and Bontey just don't care and will continue to milk the sport for financial gain.

    This recent Wlad interview says it all.

     
  11. The Mongoose

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    I can only speculate that Wlad just isn't going to risk many uppercuts from range these days unless he has to. Peter II one of the rare times in recent years I've seen him commit to the punch.
     
  12. salty trunks

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    Anyone who defends that type of fighting is a fool. Its truly ashame that he wasnt disqualified or prevented from doing it. We would have seen a completely different fight had Wlad been forced to fight rather than hold and stink out the joint like he did.
     
  13. The Mongoose

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    Povetkin should have forced him to fight with effective pressure.

    Wlad was trying to grab Brock everytime he was within range too, but getting his ribs battered red for 4 rounds forced him to get on his toes and commit to his jab.
     
  14. jc

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    I agree that having an undisputed number one heavyweight is good for boxing. But I would take a less dominant more interesting heavyweight.

    Wladimir has topped a very weak era indeed.
     
  15. salty trunks

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    Why do you keep going to the Brock fight that was 7 years ago. Wlad has only gotten worse with the holding and grappling as did Lewis at the end of his career. Styles make fights. Had Lewis been able to get up and over Vitali he would have stunk that fight out too probably, but you cant blame Povetkin for keeping a taller stronger guy from holding him when its against the rules.