Wlad vs Povetkin: K2 promotions with 13million$ purse bid

Seriously what is your deal? Wladimir has lost to worse fighters than Povetkin so it is quite possible that Wladimir could lose to Povetkin.

As far as the fight being in Germany and not Russia you obviously just don't get it. Halle is a city of 23,000 people in a stadt of 18 million people, and the Gerry Weber Stadion only holds 12,300. Moscow is a city of 18 million people and the Olympisky Arena can hold 35-40,000 people. If I were a promoter I'd hold the fight where I can get 35-40,000 people and happens to be in the world's richest city, especially because the broadcast times will be the same so I will have the same television audience regardless.

 

You are aware that the promoter doesn't keep a percentage of the fighter's purse right? No the promoter derives their income from television rights and live gate.

As far as your smug attitude you are aware the Russian networks have paid Wladimir before? As have networks in over 100 other countries, so not sure what you're trying to get at.

 

Moscow is a great city and i love this city. But Sauerland want to go to Moscow not because of the city or the people. And Wlad knows this.

Wlad and his team are not stupid.

K2 won the purse bid and know the Champion can chose what ever he want.

 

They wanted to go to Moscow because that is where they could get the largest live gate. They would have brought in international judges, which both Sauerland and Universum would do, and would bring in an international ref.

Now Chef might disagree with this one, but I have heard the biggest reason that Klitschko wants the fight in Germany is that he didn't want to face a hostile crowd.

 

Don't see why where the fight is being hosted is a problem for either fighter. Both already fought enough times in Germany and got used to it there, the place is good for both Povetkin and Klitschko. If it's in Russia then it's pro Povetkin, if in Ukraine then pro Wladimir. The fight is in Germany and both are used to fighting in Germany already.

Should be a fair clean fight.

 

I understand what you're getting at Scar. The problem with holding it in Ukraine is that Klitschko would want it in Kyiv and Kyiv is not a very rich city and the largest arena in Kyiv only holds 7,200 people. The biggest indoor arena in Ukraine is in Mariupol, which is in the Donetsk oblast and is one of the most pro-Russian parts of Ukraine with almost 40% of the population being ethnic Russian and 75% of the population speaks Russian as a first language. In fact during the election contest between Yuschenko and Yanukovych the region threatened to break away from Ukraine and join Russia when Yuschenko was declared the victor.

 

Thanks for the information, a little bit of History lessons is always good. :good

 

No problem.

 

No talk from Team Klitschko to fight in the Ukraine.

Povetkin wants to fight in Moscow to make it political. In his last fight he walks into the ring with soldiers by his side. I hate this. Military had nothing to do with boxing.

The russian mafia is rich and they want Povetkin to win. In Moscow also people live who are very poor, this are normal people. The rich russians, where did they come from? From whom did they get there money?

And don´t tell ****. Sauerland and Universum never had obejtive ref. They always have the ref. on there side. In the last fights from Wladimir Klitschko the ref. was from the US and was objective.

Fair options for both fighters. And this is not Sauerland style. I never see a fight in germany from Sauerland and Universum with fair options from both fighters. Look at fights from Sven Ottke or at the weekend Karo Murat. Murat lost but he gets the win by Sauerland.

 

I do not disrespecting russian people.

But criminal organization excists in all countries and these organisation are a part of professional boxing and the russian mafia excists like other organisation. For example Primo Carnera und Sonny Liston where owned by the mafia. Criminal elements where part of professional boxing for a very long time.

I know a lot of russian people but there are poor. Where does the rich have all that money? Working with there hands?

Mafia excists all over the world and this had nothing to do with desrespecting people.

Wladimir is the Champ, K2 won the purse bid and so Wlad can box whereever he want.
End of story.

And i am happy, if the fight happend in Germany.

 

Yep russians are sicko killers

 

Scar and I were having a conversation over the hypothetical possibility of the fight taking place in Ukraine, and every country has poor people but some nations have more than others and as of right now Russia's middle class is larger than Ukraine's population, that is simply fact.

I think the ref for Povetkin vs Chambers was Steve Smoger, he is widely regarded as one of the best and most impartial refs in the business, by the way he is from Philadelphia.

By the way Jeff Lacy came in with soldiers once, I think two or three fights before he went up against Calzaghe, does that mean he was trying to make it political as well? These fighters happen to be patriotic, and if they want to show support for their nations' militaries by having soldiers carry the flag into the ring then so be it, but don't make this out to be more than it is.

And your mafia references are off the wall crazy. No one would deny that the Russian mafia is powerful, but since the Yeltsin era it has seen its power eroded with the rise of a major middle class and growing economy.

 

I am no Sam Peter fan, as he is the Arch Enemy of my idol, James Toney. But I hate the Klitchkos equally. It's nightmarish, but it looks like unless Fat Sam lands a beautiful right, that both Klit sisters will be World Champs simultaeously.:dead