How do you guys see Wlad doing against Pinklon Thomas, Tim Witherspoon, Tony Tubbs, John Tate and Greg Page? (not all at the same time obviously!!)
Againt the Wlad who fought last night? Big Klitty would have em all for breakfast, lunch dinner & supper. Wlads just too big & too strong for most fighters nowadays, never mind the guys of yesteryear. How could any of em not be worn down by THAT jab, which IMO is the best jab in boxing today. America not showing the fight tells its own story, they are in the huff cos they know their best fighters today are simply lambs to the slaughter to todays Klits. Even larry Holmes would have lost to the Wlad who beat Fast Eddie, never mind the Witherspoons of this world.
He would find it very hard against Tucker and witherspoon, i see Wlad losing both these fights.Thomas would also be a problem.A lot of these guys were actually very good fighters.Wlad would probably have beaten Berbick,Tubbs,Page,Weaver and Tate he would have found a guy like Carl Williams a problem and the same would go with Tyrel Biggs.Bonecrusher would have loved Wlad,take a guy who is known to run out of gas into the later rounds and then let him have it.Wlad would do ok but he would lose a few.He would fit right in !
You know, it's funny. I hear a lot of people saying how this, that and the other fairly average fighter from yesteryear would cause both Klits big problems. It's nonsense. The Klits would have been elite in any era. Maybe not so outrageously dominant, but they would have only ever been caused problems by the very, very best. Peak Ali, Foreman, Tyson, Lewis etc. Not the likes of Smith, Witherspoon and Bruno.
Doesn't mean much in the scheme of things, I'm not the kind of boxing fan who thinks a fighter is 'exposed' after a loss. If that were the case all boxers would be considered ****. Look at the thread talking about boxers who have only ever lost to the best, they're few and far between. Between them the Klits are 95(89)-5-0 over careers spanning 15 years. If they were black Americans they'd be the most famous, revered athletes on the planet.
Nor do I, but your original quote claimed that the Klits would only be troubled by 'the very, very best'. The above mentioned are far from that.
Obviously what I said comes with a caveat, i.e. you have to apply some common sense. This is heavyweight boxing and anything can and occasionally does happen. The current version of Wladimir hangs at the top table of the heavyweight division in any era. Just like the Vitali of a few years back. You wouldn't claim that pac isn't an all time elite fighter because of 2 KO's to no marks many moons ago, would you?
I think they would fare well in any era. Vitali especially as he brings durability with his size, power, stamina and effective style.
Exactly. Like bringing up McCall and Rahman every time you speak about Lewis' accomplishments. Wlad is as different a fighter from he was during those losses as Lewis was after McCall.