Wlad was head and shoulders above a wilder

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  1. lucky luke

    lucky luke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How did the Wilder-Helenius fight end? I've must've missed that one.
     
  2. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Same year means after you dope. Not sure what Liakhovich has to do with Wlad. All your points are BS.
     
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  3. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    Wladimir's dominance was straight up absurd. From 2007 to 2010 he arguably only lost two rounds, then from 2011 to 2014 he arguably only lost two rounds. That's four rounds in eight years. It's completely unheard of for a HW to be that dominant, and he defeated these fighters in those periods:

    Povetkin
    Pulev
    Haye (definitely won at least two)
    Ibragimov (definitely won at least one)
    Chagaev
    Rahman
    Peter
    Thompson (Definitely won at least one)
    Chambers
    Mormeck
    Leapai
    Pianeta
    Wach
     
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  4. Midwood

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    Didn’t read.
     
  5. Midwood

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    didn’t read . You are clearly delusional and your posts are too long. I’d rather read cst’’s movie reviews than your nonsense and I don’t watch movies.
    Once again fat boy got popped for nandrolone, has a glass jaw and all he has is 67year old wlad and windmill who is a can crusher.
     
  6. Ted Stickles

    Ted Stickles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    of course Wlad is the superior fighter that goes without saying. As far as Wilder yes he’s a big puncher but not THE biggest puncher ever. That BS was started by Fury and his team to sell the fights and make the accomplishments seem bigger against this massive ko artist. Head to head Wlad beats Wilder 8-10 times. The other two he gets caught.
     
  7. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Agree. The means by HOW the opponents reacted to his shots were a good way to gauge just how superior his knockout power really was

    Chambers was caught with a very short left hook that put Chambers Face down, hanging off the apron halfway out of the ring

    Brock was cold before hit the mat

    Austin was knocked out with even ONE right hand ever even being thrown by Wlad

    wilder had to “wind up” his right and throw it from left field…..Wlad knock you out with either hand; inside; outside; short punches; long, wind up shots…..he KOed many good opponents with either hand. Both hands are devastating from ANY distance

    Mercer
    Liakhovich (Not an impressive win but still a win)
    Haye
    Poverkin
    Chagaev

    Those right there overshadow, by far, Wilders most notable opponents…….and that was……Well……..Ortiz?

    when I hear Wilder called “one of the hardest punchers in HW history” I can’t help but laugh every time, as Wlad was sooooo much harder if a puncher, and with ANY type of punch woyy to h both hands
     
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  8. BEATDOWNZ

    BEATDOWNZ Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I agree. Wlad would have caught a body had he wound up every shot. Even his opponents say nobody hit harder than Wlad.
     
  9. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't know how Wlad knocking out Haye, Povetkin, Liakhovich, Mercer and Chagaev was more impressive than Wilder's knockouts considering ...

    Wlad didn't knock out Haye and Povetkin ... and Wlad didn't even fight Liakhovich.

    Whereas Wilder left Liakhovich convulsing on the floor.

    Also, Wilder and Wlad's only common opponent, Tyson Fury, called Wilder the hardest puncher in boxing history.

    And, since you brought up David Haye, who only sparred with Wilder, Haye called Wilder the hardest puncher ever, too.
    https://www.givemesport.com/1543696...ilder-has-the-hardest-punch-in-boxing-history

    Speaking to BT Sport, Haye said: “I truly believe he’s the hardest punching heavyweight ever. “I got hit by Wilder in sparring – and I’ve been hit by Wladimir Klitschko on the chin with 10oz gloves – but there was more effect from Wilder hitting me on the top of the head with 18oz gloves on and with me wearing a head guard. It wasn’t even clean, it was glancing, but I felt that more. I remember after sparring him the first time I thought he was going to do something. He was wild, he was all over the place but the power…"

    And, while Povetkin didn't feel the need to cheat against Wlad, Povetkin didn't even make it into the ring with Wilder because he decided, before facing Wilder, it would be a good idea to get involved in Russia's state-sponsored PED handout ... which resulted in Russia's Olympic team getting bounced from the 2016 Games and Povetkin getting busted for PEDS seemingly every time he took a drug test throughout 2016 ... which resulted in him getting dropped out of the ratings for a period.

    So, like the head-to-head meetings between Wilder's opponents and Wlad's opponents, when you look at the comments and actions by Wlad and Wilder's common opponents, Wilder's side gets the nod.
     
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  10. Dubblechin

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    The boxers who fought both Wlad and Wilder DON'T say Wlad hit harder, though. Which is what we're talking about. Who hit harder?

    And the fighters who didn't face Wilder wouldn't know.
     
  11. PH|LLA

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    Wlad was better than Wilder but noone would be surprised if Wilder sparked Wlad the **** out.
     
  12. BEATDOWNZ

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    Go away.
     
  13. Austinboxing

    Austinboxing British Boxing fan Full Member

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    Are you kidding? The Klitschko’s sucked until all the good fighters retired and so they then dominated a weak division for 10 years and then got battered as soon as a decent fighter pops up.
     
  14. Midwood

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    Once again juiced up Fury couldn’t so sheet against 40 year old wlad and then ran from fighting him in rematch. You praising a drug cheat who’s best win is wilder, same wilder who was quiet and wanted nothing to do with wlad while he was around.
    Now go back to watching Fury vs Wilder highlights.
     
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