Wladamir is the classic example - Mr Roboto.

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  1. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    of having 0 versatility & adaptability.

    Manny Steward taught him how to fight a specific way which will allow him to beat 95% of the men in the division...

    but Tyson had everything to counter him and beat him at his own game and Wlad was left clueless!

    Funny from the fight post conference

    "The right is supposed to land after the left but I couldn't get the range for my left - that's why I didn't throw the right"

    what a robot. Even Fury said before the fight "He only knows how to do certain things a certain way"
     
  2. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    Again, you are expecting a 39 year old man to go Marciano on a younger, faster, mobile fighter. Let his hands go until something lands..

    There is versatility, and there is total delusional expectations.

    Didn't matter what Wlad threw, he was too slow to catch him.
     
  3. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Age hasn't got anything to do with it. He still beats pretty much everyone in the division.

    You think if Floyd was in there with someone who could win the jab battle he'd stand there and cruise to a loss?

    Why was Fury the one doing the work on the inside? Wlad was clueless. malfunctioning robot.
     
  4. The Mongoose

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    Fury had the physical talent and strategy to exploit a slowed down Wlad. Age certainly a factor.

    Mayweather would never fight a longer, faster switch hitter at 39 years of age, in fact he just retired without this happening, you can't make a point with something you imagined.

    There really wasn't much meaningful work on the inside from either man. Wlad was too slow to do anything, Fury was evading at all ranges.
     
  5. Oxygene2

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    It is spot on. He has a superb but limited single script. If a fighter is good enough, they can tear up that script at which point he becomes mediocre. The H2H against other legendary heavyweights and Wladimir should be reconsidered.
     
  6. The Mongoose

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    How many 39 year olds adapted mid fight against superior reach, height, and hand speed.

    Hopkins and Moore never even pulled that trick and they weren't one dimensional in the slightest.
     
  7. lepinthehood

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    the robot malfunctioned..
     
  8. Oxygene2

    Oxygene2 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nope, Fury isn't even remotely an ATG yet. He has to win a bunch more fights.

    Feel free to not respect him, I haven't asked you to.


    Next.
     
  9. Oxygene2

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    Ya know, it's not even that he lost. It's about how he performed and how Fury's style bamboozled him. It revealed a lot about Wlad regardless of his age.

    He is an ATG heavyweight — this goes without saying — but a lot of clear weakness was "exposed" in his fight with Fury, and the same could be said even if Wlad had found a late knock-out victory. It's not really about the loss, it's about the dynamics of this match-up and the entailed ramifications. Also, age is used as a ridiculous cookie-cutter and autopilot irreproachable aegis of defence. The fact is, Wlad was the champ and hadn't lost in a zillion years, so much credit should go to Fury for the victory.

    I'm not saying Fury is greater than Wladimir — he isn't.

    Fury is at the beginning of his "big" career right now.

    Wladimir is an established great of the division, but IMV a limited one.
     
  10. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    exactly, its a total joke. fury outworked a heavybag that wouldn't punch back. They both looked gawd awful, but Klit not even trying is beyond me and the strangest thing i've seen in a ring in recent years.
     
  11. Jacko

    Jacko Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wlad not punching was down to Fury's tactics. Fury laid out some of his game plan before the fight and highlighted Wlad's weaknesses. Even non boxers like myself and other posters on here have pointed out for years that using foot and upper body movement and not standing still in front of Wlad makes him gun shy as he is overly cautious and one dimensional. That one dimension is very effective against most fighters, but, evidently it is not against a man with Fury's specific physical and technical attributes.

    The fight certainly wasn't entertaining, but Fury deserved respect for being able to carry out the game plan he and his uncle devised.
     
  12. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wlad was clueless. I have been saying forever that Wlad has a low ring IQ.
    That doe not make him a bad fighter. That doe not mean he sucks. He is big, powerful, and quick. It's enough to beat most people; but, he only knows how to do one thing. When that one thing fails, he can't make adjustments.

    If that was Lennox Lewis in there and his plan was not working, Lennox Lewis would switch it up and find a way to win.