Wladamir Klitshko Vs Lennox Lewis

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  1. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wlad has been no.1 ranked for a few years now and still hasn't become linear champ. Something which he could have easily done before Vitali came back.
     
  2. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Beating up cab drivers, and volunteer fighterfighters isn't considered padding your record. Only beating top ranked fighters... because we are talking about Wlad.
     
  3. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    But he never achieved much did he? Lost to the best guys he faced and you dismiss Michael Grant as a good win for Lennox? If the mighty IBF ranked Nicholson at 3 then he must have been great.
     
  4. knn

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    Same applies to ANY opponent. Who the hell is Tua? Who the hell is Oliver McCall?

    Why should wins over Tua or McCall or over Young mean mean ANYTHING?
     
  5. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Grant is considered as very good win for Lewis. But Wlad haters are ignoring this fact: Jameel McCline knocked out Michael Grant in the first round. He needed just 2 seconds to drop him hard and 43 seconds to stop him. It means that McCline is far better fighter than Grant, but nobody gives Wlad credit forthis victory.
    PS: Lewis resume is definitely better, but Wlad has a lot of time on his side:good
     
  6. RUSKULL

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    :huh Really? Tell that to the bookies.

    The guy's post makes sense strictly from a logical, scientific look. Of course there are the intangeables, but the guy has a point.

    Head to head Lennox, Wladimir or Vitali are a tough fight for any HW in the history of the sport.
     
  7. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Really? Explain.
     
  8. knn

    knn amanda Full Member

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    I defined it it my post above. Any boxer who boxed 180+ or below in his career is a natural cruiser.

    The term "cruiser" may be new. The weight measured in lbs is not new. It's completely irrelevant how weights were CALLED.

    However it's relevant that natural cruisers like Byrd are featherfists. Thus fighting against a pumped up cruiser is far less dangerous than against a natural heavy.
     
  9. knn

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    I prefer analyzing to fantasizing, and calculating to speculating.

    Career records analysis + watching the actual fights says at least 90% of the facts.
     
  10. Haye

    Haye Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In fact who the **** is Wladimir? Who the **** is Lewis? Who the **** is Ali? These guys are nothing!!!

    :patsch

    Dude, I think your logic chip has gone into overdrive. Clearly you are thinking too hard, and its not good for you. You are just confusing your diseased Klitite brain. I suggest sleep.
     
  11. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well, McCline KTFOed Grant in the first round, he knocked him down with the very first puch:yep. He beat Whitaker, Briggs, Bosswell and was ranked as TOP-5 heavyweight before Wlad stopped him.
     
  12. ishy

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    Wlad has been Ring Magazine no.1 HW for 2006, 2007 and 2008. In that time he has fought ONE unification against Ibragimov. In 2006 and 2007 Maskaev and Peter were ranked at 2 and 3 by Ring meaning a win over them would have made Wlad linear/ring champ.

    Ok Peter was busy with James Toney and WBC eliminators in '07 but Wlad could have fought Maskaev who didn't fight at all in '07. WOuld have been a unification and for the Ring/linear title which would have greatly enhanced Wlad's legacy. The fight would have been massive in Europe as well.

    Now that Vitali's back either brother can't become linear because they're the top 2 ranked HW's in the world and obvioulsy won't fight each other.
     
  13. Haye

    Haye Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thats bull****. The people who really know boxing watch fighters, they SEE flaws, NOTICE intangibles. Identify where the fights can be won. Styles make fights. Not stats.
     
  14. knn

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    What is bull****? That Analysis + Watching the fights tells 90% about a boxer? How can that be bull****?

    Stats _DO_ make fights. Why else is there a term like "Upset" which means that a boxer won who had the far worse record.

    Moreover Stats _DO_ make careers.
     
  15. Ayatollah

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    Lewis by decapitation.