Wladamir Klitshko Vs Lennox Lewis

Holyfield and Tyson was shot when they fought Lewis. Little later Vitali must go surgery, so thats why he was not in his best...

...and vitali is second best Klitchko:deal

 

As true as it gets.... Great post!!

 

Difference here is that Byrd is a former MW. So self ownage there.

And this era IS pathetic. No way to spin it. As for old fighters making runs for the title, at least in other eras they were once good champions, ala Ali, Foreman, Tyson. Nowadays, they are never were's, such as Maskaev and Briggs.

 

As a fan of both Klitschkos, I would have to advise you that a post like this, riddled as it is with poor perspective and some outright falsehood, does absolutely nothing for your credibility and relegates anything you might have to say of a serious nature, to the trash-heap of ESB.

 

You might want to actually research what you say beforehand... because obviously you have no idea what you are talking about. Byrd's first two fights were legally light heavyweight bouts... and he has been an official heavyweight since his 3rd pro fight. Byrd has NEVER fought at Middleweight, or at supermiddleweight as a pro. Sounds like your "self ownage" comment was pretty ironic. Besides that... Byrd clearly grew into his role as a heavyweight and was VERY successful at that weight. Not only that... but absolutely killing himself to starve down to 175 proved pretty clearly that he isn't a natural light heavyweight. Unless of course... you thought that he looked healthy, and natural as he was smashing off of the canvas.

The second part of your post was complete trash. Did you forget about Holyfield? Or is that one of the many double standards that you are once again about to prove correct.

Brush up on your knowledge before you respond to me with smart ass comments.

 

seems to be some ownage here :rofl

 

Yes, Moore was a featherfist. He was mainly a KOer of bums.

Of his 220 fights, 152 are against bums (KO rate 75%, he lost only 6 times).

Of his 68 fights against somewhat good opponents he won 28 by KO. This is featherfisted.

Of these 68 somewhat worthy opponents 65 boxed at 180+ or below at some time in their careers (natural cruiser or below), some of them even as low as 112 lbs (Alabama Kid), Pastrano (122.5) or Sys (127 lbs).

I am sorry, but what does Archie Moore do on ANY heavyweight ranking list?

Why is Ali's win against Moore (27 yrs older, only 191 lbs) still considered of any meaning for a heavyweight?

 

Dont worry same will happen with current heavyweights when they retire. When Wlad retires he will be concidered one of the best heavyweights ever. There will be a new unified heavyweight champion and people will say that Wladimir Klitschko would knock him out with a jab.

 

I am sorry that I stepped on your shoes, but what exactly are your counter-facts? Is there maybe a certain fight of Ali you want me to watch?

Of course I am doing Ali a bit wrong here, since he had to make a 3+ year break (that makes approx. 10 career fights less), and moreover he had Parkinson. However, sometimes you don't know whether making a 3-year-break is better or worse and getting Parkinson in my view was a side-effect of his non-existing defense, thus one cannot use it as an excuse.

 

your obviosuly a clown how the hell was holyfield shot when he fought lewis now i know your just a nut hugger.

 

LEWIS would respect the power of Klitschko because he has a good chin ... not a GREAT chin ... Yeah, Lewis would be very cautious.​

I pick Lewis by late TKO or UD... that fight would not be a total destruction of Klitschko... the way Klitschko is fighting right now would keep him in the fight.

So dream on MAN !

 

can we please collectively stop pretending that the Wladimir Klitschko fighting today is the same guy that got mugged by Corrie Sanders nor is he the guy that completely drained himself against guys like Puritty and Brewster.

 

No son, there isn't.

I've been through this exercise once or twice before and I don't feel up to it.

If you were a little bit off the mark, I might attempt to correct you.

As it is, you're so far off the wall there wouldn't be any point.

It'd be like arguing with a holocaust denier. I can easily win the argument to the satisfaction of most observers, but the denier is unlikely to change his mind.

In this case, I don't even need to make the case as most on here already know. And if I took the time to lay it all out again, it would reinforce the picture for the cognoscenti, but would likely leave you of the same opinion.

Regards.

 

Lewis-Vitaly is a 50-50 fight in their primes.

Lewis-Wlad is not.... Lewis would intimidate Wlad, KO him or Wlad would fight so conservatively that Lewis would win a UD from Wlad not fighting 100%.

 

OK, father.

Such is the belief in Ali being the greatest that now someone like me who claims that Ali is overrated is compared to a Holocaust denier. Unbelievable.

I never claimed that Ali isn't an ATG. But he is overrated. And he definitely would have problems with the Klitschkos, as Ali had no defense and a weak punch.

Remember Klitschko vs Schulz? Not that I compare Ali's skills to Schulz, but Schulz was Ali's height and weight.