Wladamir Klitshko Vs Lennox Lewis

Wlad doesn't necessarily have to avenge all loses to be considered on Lennox's level.

Wlad is already on pace with Lennox by unifying and defending his belts 11 times compared to Lennox's 14 defences.

Wlad does need to become undisputed though.

 

I think it would be a huge mistake trying to rush Wlad. He isn't Golota. He leaves him open if he does.

 

I think you've missed my point.

At this moment in time there isn't really a comparison to be made between Wlad and Lennox.

When the time comes, and it makes sense to compare the legacies and achivements of both fighters, the fact that Lewis has no unavenged KO loses on his record, and Wlad has 2, will damage Wlad in that comparison.

Also, Wlad HAS to become undisputed to ever really be considered in the same leauge as Lennox, IMO. Especially when, at the moment, one fighter was the undisputed champ coming out of a fairly strong era of heavyweight boxing, and the other was a title holder in a **** poor era.

 

I would be one of the happiest people around if Wlad dropped Lewis with a counter left or right. And that could happen, no doubt. But if I have to go with an outcome in such a circumstance I'm taking Lewis along the lines of 7/10 times to 9/10 times. I like Wlad, and respect his abilities. This is just my opinion.

The thing that's funny with Wlad is he actually takes a really good shot, better than has Lewis on many occasions. But he does, or did, freeze up under assault and he has had the whole 'gas out' thing. He's vastly improved from where he used to be and may be beyond that part of his career, but I've seen Lewis jump on dangerous guys like Grant or Golota effectively (and that was after the McCall KO loss), and you know he would do the same to Wlad and I just can't take Wlad in that scenario based on all available evidence. Of course, Wlad is vastly superior to either Golota or Grant. Could Wlad "McCall I" Lewis? No doubt. I just don't know if he has the mentality to do that, particularly against someone like Lewis. Maybe he did before the Sanders fight and maybe he does now, as well, but I have to take Lewis here. Just my opinion.

If Wlad could hang in the pocket, concentrate and time Lewis with something along the lines of the punch he stopped Brock with, no doubt Lewis is going down, IMO. I'm just not confident Wlad would exectute on that strategy. Wlad thinks quite a bit in his bouts, a lot like Lewis could be when fighting guys like Tua or Holyfield, and that isn't a bad thing due to some of the challenges Wlad has faced in his career. However, that kind of mentality can prevent someone from being able to deliver on the kind of gameplan Wlad might need when Lewis proceeded to basically bull rush him.

 

Man walks into a bar and asks for a drink...

''I'd like a standard please.....in fact make it a double'

 

Lewis will outjab him from the outside and would kill him on the inside.

Wlad is a poor man's Lewis. Lewis is everything Wlad could ever be plus an inside fighting skills (Wlad has 0 infighting skills).

Lewis by midround to late TKO.

 

Wlad had never outboxed..Lewis multiple times. lewis can win KO/TKO but not an points.

 

Thats 235 people favour Lennox Lewis.

And 63 people favour Wlad Klitschko.

Pretty conclusive.

 

It usually is, whenever this comes up - even at the very height of a WALDO or VITLAY circle jerk the best they ever get is 30% of the vote.

 

I actually DID take a list of 100 top rated boxers from the thread of ChrisPontius:
http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=97049

It consists of 103 boxers ranked from top to bottom:

The following boxers from the above ATG heavyweight toplist have 0 unavenged losses (= have won against every opponent they have faced):

• Gene Tunney
• Rocky Marciano
• Riddick Bowe
• Lennox Lewis
• Ingemar Johansson
• Ike Ibeabuchi

The following people have 1 unavenged loss (= better than Wlad):

• Jack Dempsey
• Joe Frazier
• Michael Spinks
• James J Jeffries

Only 2 people have 50+ fights (like Wlad): Jack Dempsey (of which only 3 are against non-bummy 200+ opponents) and Gene Tunney.

Both never boxed at more than 200 lbs.

The opponents of Gene Tunney that were 200+ have a COMBINED career record of ... now hold your hat... 3 wins and 25 losses (except for Tom Heeney who was less bummy with 37-23). The greatest collection of bums you ever saw.

Conclusion: NO OTHER BOXER has more fights against 200+ opponents and LESS unavenged losses than Wladimir Klitschko.

Now, I don't give a damn about this statistic, but since it comes up from time to time by Klitschko haters it had to be put into the right perspective.

 

Good, because its ridiculous.

 

The poll is clear...Window maker is WRONG.

 

Two things:

1. Wladimir is not a counter puncher. He has to be in control and Lennox has far too many tools to stop him from getting to that comfortable level he is used to.

2. There is a HUGE difference between the C+/B- class Calvin Brock and a Prime Lennox Lewis. Lennox goes to the body, can fight on the inside, and has a jab along with the height and reach to negate the main strength Wladdy has over his current opposition.

 

It really says alot about you when you make such partisan statements.
Wlad is not a threat in previous boxing eras?
5'11 Joe Fraziers 200 lb. is a threat?

 

I know we argue a bit about WALDO and VITLAY from time to time mate but seriously, 5'11 200lbs Joe Frazier is a threat to anyone in history.