Wladamir's Punching Power among the all time great punchers at HW?

"who legitimately held the title of HW Champion... "<---

"Neither one of these guys has ever held the title of "True" Heavyweight Champion - in the same sense as Lewis, Tyson, Holmes, Holyfield, Bowe, etc."<-----

Wlad has as much claim as Bowe and Holyfield since neither unified all the belts it all personal bias when comparing there...

Keep going.. your making an ass and fool of your self... I'm quite interested in hearing your consperecy theory still...

 

I'm sorry but No, the Ring's belt is no more worth while than any alphabet organization's trinket.

Why?

Enter Roy Jones jr.

The Ring magazine had an excellent opportunity to seperate itself from the sanctioning mobs by ignoring the politics of Boxing and awarding it's belt to the legitimate linear champion in every division.

And it was doing just that - until it got to the LHW division.

Somehow, the geniuses over @ the Ring, incredulously decided to give it's belt to RJJ instead of the guy who was the rightful owner, Dariusz Michalszewski(sp?).

After M Spinks moved up, the #1 and #2 guys @ LHW fought with Michalszewski getting the victory over Hill, which made him the man @ 175. Seeing as Jones never fought Dariusz M., how could he be the rightful champion in the division?

He can't.

The title reign of every "champion" @ 175 who's title lineage goes back to Jones has been a fraud.

Now, the Ring, in typical sanctioning mob fashion, ignores it's own rules to hand the Klit it's HW title.

The Ring Magazine belt @ 175 and HW is less than meaningless...

 

Jesus!

Was your mother using crack while carrying you?

It's simple arithmetic.

Bowe and Holyfield didn't need to unify belts. Bowe and Holyfield were HW Champions due to the fact that they beat the man who beat the man who beat the man, etc. Bowe's and Holyfield's title lineage goes all the way back to Floyd Patterson, genius.

Do you even know who Floyd Patterson is?

The title that Bowe and Holyfield (2x) won has a lineage that includes guys named Ali, Foreman, and Frazier.

Who's part of the lineage for the title the Klits currently hold?

No ****ing body.

Are you really that stupid or is this just an act?

 

someone needs to ban this ass. He's just highjacking theads and raving to **** people off.

 

No they weren't that's the whole point. They were linear champions.

 

Yeah right, Holme's jab had more snap & power than Wlad's. :rofl

Not a surprise that the only Wlad fights you mention are his losses from over half a decade ago. **** off ya ****in' 2 bit hater...............

 

Klitschko already surpassed Bowe by a long shot and he's ranked higher on any serious ATG list.

 

Klitschkos power is undoubtly in the league of Foreman, Shavers, Tyson, Louis and Liston. 47 KO in 53 fights vs. decent opposition is a great KO-record. If he lands flush on you with his 240lbs. you are going to lose.

 

See that's a fair opinion right there. I don't agree with it but it's fair enough.

I'd say Wlad's jab is top 3 & his power is top 5.

 

Yes, if he's not saying than I am. While Rocky was still top 10 or so I'm confident that Wladimir hits harder than Marciano.

 

Wladimir is clearly the top dog at Heavyweight and he has been for some time now, get with the program. The Ring just recognized him as such but he's been "the Man" far before they gave their blessing.

 

No it isn't. As you just said, belts don't make champions, so let's throw them all away & Wlad would still be the ****in' champ-get over it.

 

Bruno-despite his bad losses-was a heavy,heavy puncher Ruskull.

You can read too much into statistics,but his KO percentage is higher than Wlad's

 

Keep splitting hairs since you don't like the guy at the top. :yep

Amazing how this "new" idiot Nay_Sayer proclaims that the belts don't make the champ and yet you, a new pal of his, claim Wlad needs to win all of them or he's just another belt holder :rofl

Wlad beat Chagaev who beat Valuev so there's your lineage right there.

As far as Vitali's WBC belt? VK beat Peter for it & Wladimir already beat Peter so that makes up the difference, y'know, since belts don't matter an' all.

 

I wasn't talking about Bruno but since ya brought it up.............

Bruno lost EVERY time he stepped up in competition. I don't think Frank had soft punches but I wouldn't rate him up there with the elite in power. Same for his jab for that matter.