Wladamir's Punching Power among the all time great punchers at HW?

Nope.

 

Wlad hits really hard... Harder than Tyson? yes

Harder than Lewis, Foreman, Shavers... No.

Who ever said Wlad v Rahman was a good comparison to Lewis v McCall 2 is wrong imo!

Rahman had his guard up and was defending himself... this is why Wlad gets abuse... he should have unloaded and took Rahman out instead of standing off... his oponent was defending himself and not throwing punches.

Lewis v McCall you could see Lewis looking at the ref almost asking 'why don't you stop it? he isn't fighting, he isn't defending himself... i don't want to hurt the guy' You could see Lewis wasn't looking to hurt McCall he was waiting for it to be called off.

If you want to compare Lewis and Wlads power compare their stoppages of Rahman.
Wlad fought the shot to **** version and stopped him by TKO

Lewis fought the prime version and KO'd him viciously... watch that KO with the volume up... nasty

 

Rahman wasnt prepared to that shot Lewis Throw at him. Against Wlad He was just trying to stay alive, to survive. Rahman saw the punches Wlad throw and was ready for 'em.

 

Agree 100% that at a certain point its really splitting hairs. He hits hard and is among the best. No one can really say with certainty who hits the hardest and I would say amongst those who have similar power then styles and strategy becomes more important when comparing them. Wlad doesnt get the early KO's like Tyson and Foreman did because he is more cautious and takes his time.

 

Wlad definitely hits harder than Vitali. Vitali has a higher KO ratio because he is more agressive. He has good power in both hands but he breaks his opponents down over time which Wlad does too but we have seen Wlad have more sudden KO's with one or a few punches.

Ok, you admit he is much larger, in excellent condition and has better technique than marciano but somehow marciano (who is 50 pounds lighter than wlad) hits harder? And your logic is that he has "magic":rofl:rofl:rofl

 

Let me get this straight: Lewis can't knock down nor even wobble a completely mentally broken down McCall, who is shaking his head, tears rolling down his face and his guard completely down. As Lewis was throwing a couple of punches but doesn't know what to do, he simply couldn't pull the trigger.

If Lewis had that much of a harder punch than Wlad should he know have blown McCall out of the ring? Lewis look outright timid as he held back and was unwilling to go all out.

Or perhaps McCall came into the ring with no interest of winning, he just wanted to make Lewis look bad .. JUST LIKE RAHMAN WITH WLAD!

You can not look good against fighters who do not come to fight.

I love it how you guys love to rip Wlad with any chance you get but when someone brings up examples from one of your idols LESS CONVINCING FIGHTS it's ALWAYS a bad example or "guy with a granite chin" BLA BLA BLA

 

I think if you took all the top heavyweight boxers in history, lined them up and asked them to punch a power meter as hard as they possibly can, we would be surprised and find that Wlad is probably in the top five. The thing with Wladimir is that he is a trained boxer, who happens to have ko power in both hands. There is nothing wrong with that. He uses traditional boxing strategy to wear down opponents, and when he is sure that they are beaten and unable to mount a counter offensive, he then delivers his power punches. Nothing wrong with that, just strategy. Wladimir is a very tall and large 250 lb man. He must burn calories like crazy just walking around. His size is both a pro and a con. So he fights the way he does for energy conservation purposes as well. He knows that going balls to the wall for a man his size is stupid. He has learned that lesson. And if you happen to be fighting a guy that is in the ring to survive and somehow manages to do so, you are then gassed and defenseless. It has happened to Wladimir, Foreman, and many other great heavyweights.

 

What?
I've never heard anything so silly in my life.That is biased nuthuggery at it's very best

There is a huge difference between a fighter looking to defend and survive during a fight and the other guy not having the killer instinct to take the fight to his opponent and a fighter not willing to take a guys head off who isn't fighting back. If Lewis had KO'd McCall while McCall was looking the other way and crying people would have slated Lewis to the ground. I can see exactly why Lewis was far more tentative than usual about hitting his oponent... i would have been too... McCall didn't make Lewis look bad at all but Lewis woukld have made himself look bad had he have gone all out to stop a man not defending himself that was crying and not even looking to fight back

 

Not sure if you remember the press reaction to the fight. Lewis was ripped by the boxing press at that time for having no heart and for not blowing McCall out of the ring.

Don't misunderstand me. I am not blaming Lewis, he went for safety first and didn't risk anything as this fight was immensely important to him.

Much of this Wlad negativity here is hugely hypocritical as some people are using double standards.

 

personally i would have been disgusted if Lewis had looked to take McCalls head off while the guy wasn't even looking at him... that would be cowardly

 

Yea your right Lewis mustve had no power...idiot.. :roll:

 

Not knocking out a guy having a mental break down who isn't even looking at him also makes him a fighter with no heart apparently

 

That is true, the fight happend in 97, and alot of the press were claiming Lewis had no killer instinct and that whats seperated him from the Tyson's and Holyfields of his generation.

Lewis, was a saftey first fighter, but not even close to Wlad 03 on. Lewis was willing to engage with huge punchers like Briggs, Ruddick, Morrison, Bruno, Mercer, and Vitali. Wlad never went bomb for bomb with his oppenent, look at how he beat Sam Peter for christ sake. You would of thought he was gay the way he held him all night. He was falling all over the place like the town drunk, he looked terrible that night against a very crude fighter.

 

byrd fought vitali, tua, ibeabuchi, wlad and co and hes said that he was never punched so hard like against vlad

 

Knocking out a man who is turning his back and crying would be like smacking a bloke with glasses... you just don't do it