Wladimir’s resume-Fury will never reach that level

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  1. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah quite likely. I don't care if he didn't beat a litany of top 10 guys if he beat guys from the top 5 say about 5 times he'll have done a great job with his career.
     
  2. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wlad was the king of the heavyweight division. If you think he wasn't a top fighter anymore back then then when did it all end? Oh wait that's right Fury ended that reign.
     
  3. Serge

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    Compare the way Fury, Bootleg D, and AJ reacted to getting dropped in the fights they were last knocked down.

    D aka the sport's most prolific rabbit puncher instinctively complained to his buddy and partner in crime Bayliss about something looking for him to pull some strings like the mental weakling he is and then proceeded to burn up a lot of nervous energy and gas because his shoulders couldn't bear the weight of the mental pressure of facing a 60% Fury as opposed to a 40% one just like they couldn't bear the weight of his stupid cosplay costume.

    AJ fell to pieces mentally too after Fat Andy dropped him. To be fair, it wasn't quite as noticeable as D's mental collapse against Fury had been but he clearly looked shell-shocked and burnt up a ton of nervous energy after that. He tried to style it out like he hadn't been unduly affected by it by smiling and winking but it was plain to see he had been and that he had entered the Nightmare Realm.

    Granted his Brit Level inner fortitude was enough for him to overcome the adversity of being heavily dropped by Wlad, but he still gassed badly for a while after that and let's not forget he was in against an inactive senior citizen.

    Now compare how Fury responded to getting dropped by Bootleg D on away soil. No complaints of a rabbit punch from him after the first KD looking for a helping hand he just instinctively started clowning around and then came out and won the next round big IIRC, even hurting D a bit.

    But his response to the second KD was even more revealing, a very heavy one where he was totally out for a few seconds. He jumped up like a Jack in a box after awakening from his brief slumber, did a cheeky little jig after being instructed by the ref to walk to his right, and then he not only proceeded to win the remainder of the round but, again, he instinctively started clowning, taunting D by putting his hands behind his back like a madman, and then actually took the fight to D not long after and even hurt him. Not a single gypsy feather was ruffled in the slightest after either KD.

    This my fellow forumites is what is known on the caravan sites across the world as Gypsy Swag and the end result of generation after generation of real fighting men being bred to fight from the moment they're old enough to walk.

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  4. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes, but Klitschko was 40. Any reasonable person knows that fighters decline after 35. 40 is a grandpa in boxing years.
     
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  5. gdm

    gdm Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    You need to be absolutely ******ed if you think 40yo wlad was still in his prime.
     
  6. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    I wouldn't say Fury "can never reach Wlad's level". I would say this though: At the current pace of him fighting a ranked opponent only every 4-5 years he won't surpass Wlad, no.
     
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  7. gdm

    gdm Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    So far Fury has chisora , shot wlad and wilder, even if he beats overrated AJ he’ll still be behind wlad.
     
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  8. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    Great post, and I will try to say it a little differently.

    Wilder is a natural bully
    Joshua is a natural athlete
    Fury is a natural fighter.

    That is why Wilder is a fraud, Joshua a front runner, and Fury a guy you have to nail to the canvas to beat.
     
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  9. Geo1122

    Geo1122 Active Member Full Member

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    Wlad is a victim of his own success. Had he not been so dominant there would have been other stars and champions for him to lock horns with. But as it stands, they were only ever really seen as good contenders. Had Wlad not been around for his own era I’m sure Wlad’s best scalps would have gone on to do great things.

    Put it this way, I reckon a prime Povetkin beats both Joshua and Wilder. However, because of circumstances both Wilder and Joshua (should Fury be successful) will be seen as much greater wins.
     
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  10. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    You know the Tyson Fury detractors are having a tough time when they're trying to big up Sultan Ibragimov. :fufu
     
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  11. Safin

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    I wouldn't be so quick to call Anthony Joshua a "natural" athlete.
     
  12. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    I have a crazy theory but hear me out, maybe just maybe Wlad and Fury are both top tier fighters.
     
  13. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Sorry I missed this post

    Thanks

    Yeah that's a much more succinct way of putting it