Wladimir always wanted testing....Russian promoter admits media misquotes....

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  1. Pirao

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    As obvious as the fact that you are a ******.
     
  2. itsmeagain1

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    I think its highly suspect that a professional "sportsman" insists on a specific agency to do his tests.

    There is no hypocrisy. Unless you refer to Wlad insisting Povetkin trusts German testing when he wont trust Russian and also refusing a 3rd party test as verification.

    In terms simple enough for you:

    Does it look bad? Yes
    Is looking bad and raising suspicion sufficient proof? No

    Its as simple as that.

    Of course we wont get to know the full details because of the non-disclosure agreement written into the contract - so we never get to know the crooked terms wlad has insisted on or the fight would not be taking place. Not that Povetkin has a real shot here - he lost to Huck imo so its not going to impress me when wlad wins a drawn out and rather dull UD.
     
  3. itsmeagain1

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    as obvious as your agenda bias and ignorance.

    anyone can throw the word ****** around - its not hard. Its also not true either. Would you care to share your claim to intellectual authority? Please do
     
  4. Rudolph

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    Hypocrisy of the highest order.

    I don't know how many times it's been posted on these boards already why the Cologne lab has the most credibility in Europe if not the whole world, and how the Russian lab was involved in numerous scandals with selling banned substances, covering up for their athletes or just plain infecting them with deceases because of professional negligence and infringement of sanitary norms and procedures.

    What really should raise some eyebrows is why the Russian side would insist on using the inferior lab instead of trusting the matter to the one that has a proven history of quality control and is universally recognised as one of the best? Is it because they want to give their fighter some sort of advantage, I wonder? Did you ever try and ask yourself that question? Somehow it's "highly suspicious" to you when it comes to Wlad, but your suspicions remain completely unstirred when Povetkin insists on using the other lab. What is this if not hypocrisy?
     
  5. Rudolph

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    Oh, really. Look-e here everyone, we got Mr. Righteous here. Does the same critique apply to you or are you somehow immune?

     
  6. itsmeagain1

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    If you are acquiring your beliefs from forum sources then I see the issue.

    Wlad is the hypocrite - he is the one refusing the use of both and an independent agency. He is the one who thinks povetkin should accept a standard he himself wont. Povetkin was willing to allow three agencies - Wlad said he would walk away from the fight unless its German only. Clearly the finger of suspicion points squarely at Wlad.
     
  7. itsmeagain1

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    Daft and foolish are words that can be assigned to anyone at certain moments. A ****** is a specific criteria and generally regarded as FIQ below 70.
     
  8. Rudolph

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    This is getting tiring. Links were provided. Sources like newspapers, magazines, etc.

    The German one IS the independent agency. Plus three agencies is an utterly stupid idea. You will realize why if you think a little.
     
  9. Rudolph

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    That's modest for someone who goes full ****** more than once on the same topic.
     
  10. itsmeagain1

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    Meaningless.

    Basically you believe full ****** is someone who disagrees with your bias view on the matter.
     
  11. itsmeagain1

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    The German one is the independent one. :patsch

    Yeah that sounds above board and without suspicion. Wlad is based in Germany and an adopted sportsman there. Its not even slightly credible.
     
  12. Rudolph

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    Except that you're the one who's biased
     
  13. Rudolph

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    The fight's in Russia.
    What you're saying is the equivalent of someone blaming Floyd for insisting WADA tests - after all he's based in the USA and is a native sportsman there.
     
  14. itsmeagain1

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    Everyone has a bias. Calling for actual biological passports and a neutral agency is hardly proof of mine.
     
  15. itsmeagain1

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    Thats a poor example. Doesnt he have his own private contract with WADA. Rather like what Wlad probably has with this German agency - hence this insistence and threats to walk away.

    Really does look very bad indeed. No question about that