Wladimir hasn't dominated an A-level opponent in over 4 years

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  1. Mendoza

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    Huh? Wlad floored Povetkin 3 times, and pretty much shut him out on the cards. The match happened in Povetkin's country.
     
  2. Ivan

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    IT IS A FACT that Wlad is avoiding the better fighters in the division and fights Pianettas, Leapais, Mormecks and Wachs. There have been so many more deserving and FAR BETTER heavyweights out there but Wlads usually milks his titles and robs us from seeing real championship fights.

    WHAT IS WRONG WITH GERMAN PEOPLE???? 9 million people and sold out arenas to watch Leapai???? A championship fight including a fighter who fought against Joe Lloyd (2-4-0) last year and who's been knocked out by Keving "I won't throw any punches" Johnson. WTF PEOPLE??! WTF!?

    WHY hasn't Wlad fought Pulev but he fights Leapai???? The creator of this thread is right! Half of Wlad's recent defences have been complete GARBAGE and he hasn't been looking dominant in defeating Povetkin or Haye - the two most worthy opponents in his resume.
     
  3. FAT_TONEY

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    Then don't bother to post in this thread.

    I clearly said that Haye and Povetkin were A level opposition, just as Chambers was. But Klitschko didn't dominate Haye or Povetkin.
     
  4. FAT_TONEY

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    Again, it was a disgraceful performance by a HW champion standard. Please. Did you watch the fight?
     
  5. FAT_TONEY

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    Not many, but that doesn't change the fact that they weren't good performances by Wlad. They were poor performances by a HW champion standard. Wlad didn't dominate at all.
    Why? I gave the reasons in my first post, you can read them there.
     
  6. Azzer85

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    Ignore him, he's just trying to provoke a reaction.

    He believes Wlads last big win was Eddie Chambers.

    I think he forgot Haye and Povetkin
     
  7. Scar

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    Do A level opponents exist in this division?. As far as I remember, Povetkin was classified as A class when he fought Wladimir and his amateur resume backs it up big time. It's not Povetkin's fault he fell victim to the
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    fighting style and was grabbed senseless all night.
     
  8. Nonito Smoak

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    Povetkin is probably his third or so best victory of his whole career.

    I'm a big Eddie Chambers man. But Povetkin >>> Chambers.
     
  9. FAT_TONEY

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    Man, read my first post. Of course I'm not forgetting Haye and Povetkin, but these weren't good wins for Wlad. Why? I gave the reasons in my first post here.
     
  10. FAT_TONEY

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    As I have stated numerous times in this thread, I reckon Povetkin and also Haye to be A class challengers, yet Wlad failed to dominate them. Read my first post.
     
  11. Nonito Smoak

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    Dude.

    Haye and Povetkin very likely combined to win 2 or 3 of 24 rounds from Wladimir.

    What else is needed to qualify as "domination?"
     
  12. FAT_TONEY

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    There is however a huge difference in the way Wlad handled Chambers and how he hendled Povetkin.

    Wlad did a convincing job against Chambers and KOed him, though at the last minute, just like a true HW champion should. That's why I consider this to be Wlads last good win.

    The grab-fest against Povetkin however was a total farce of a 'fight', and that was entirily Wlads fault. A disgraceful performance not worthy of a HW champ. Especially considering that Wlad could probably have won this fight in a dominating fashion if he only wanted to.
     
  13. FAT_TONEY

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    They did not win many rounds of off Wlad but still these were awful performances by Wlad. Why? I gave the reasons in my first post.

    You have to actually watch the fights, not only look at the statistics.
     
  14. Scar

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    Didn't dominate them?, are you for real?

    Haye never wanted to fight to begin with, all he did was cruise, do silly faces and leave claiming he didn't get knocked out to save face and score any other payday available. The Povetkin fight was totally in Wladimir's favor from start to finish, sure Wladimir applied his infamous appalling fighting style but still it was good enough to completely dominate. Did Povetkin win ANY round in that one?. Sure, I do agree and admit Wladimir's fighting style is despicable but it's still good enough to dominate the division for a decade now.
     
  15. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Oh I watched the fights.

    Rarely was there a 20 second span in either of the fights' entirety where I thought Wlad "lost" the 20 second span.

    Just because you don't like the style of fighting doesn't take away the quality of victory. Had he struggled with them in the rounds he won, gotten hurt a couple times, etc, then you'd have a point.

    But I'm not one to value Calderon's 120-108 ass beatings he dished out on the reg as not being "dominant" all because he was often on his back foot and never even smelled blood in the water, let alone knew what to do with it.

    That's just making it too personal and opinionated. And not in a good way; but in an aesthetically and almost cosmetically biased way.