Wladimir is coming back and going to clean out the whole HW division

You’re probably right though as a fan of Whyte I wouldn’t fancy his chances against Wlad even now,I fully expected Whyte to do a number on Chisora and he was actually down on the cards after Chisora had two taken away,you could say it was never in doubt when he finally knocked him out but off the back of that performance I’m telling you Wlad would beat Whyte.

 

What you mean that massive uppercut from Joshua?its one of his shots albeit we haven’t seen it for a while but it did for Whyte also.
It’s not to say it would of worked going for the kill after that knockdown but he must of wondered what if?

 

Yep imo he went too far the other way after his non show against Fury,just shows what an influence Steward had on him,took a monster that got knocked out to an unbeatable machine for a decade.
It’s also my opinion that Wlad is the heaviest hitter of all time at HW,some Wilder fans might have issue with that but he’s so unorthodox I can’t compare him,check his power against Povetkin,fouling aside Wlad was nearly knocking Povetkin over with his jab alone and I think it came from that fluidity as you put it.

 

I half remember his speech saying he was passing the torch on to aj? Can't see why he would come back now, agreed he is to old and to long retired now.

 

Put it this way,I’d be fearful for Joshua we’re they to rematch as it’s still probably 60/40 in favour of Joshua and against Wilder I have as much as 80/20 for Wlad as I’m sure he could avoid Wilders right and he’d just time him imo and he certainly wouldn’t showboat like Fury and duck into stuff.
Ortiz was never a threat to Wlad at any stage and against Fury I wouldn’t like to say since he couldn’t do any worse than before.

 

I'd have him top 3/5 like but George foreman and tyson definitely above him, but your right his power was underatted, maybe Lewis above him too his accuracy enhanced his power imo

 

yeah that upper cut was real weak

 

I didn't mean that Whyte would be too tough, quite the opposite. Wlad isn't coming out of retirement to fight some mediocre non-titlist.

 

This. Wlad is noticably slower now, even though he seems defensively more complete than his younger self. He was missing AJ wih big power shots by fractions when they fought. That's why I'm confident a prime Wlad would put Joshua away without too many hassles. That said, Joshua has surprisingly fast reactions. He slipped a lot of shots at the absolute last possible moment.

 

I think so, mate. Don't think either of them expected Joshua to be able to physically recover the way he did, for which he deserves tremendous credit. A little foolish on their part perhaps to assume the 41 year old would be able to maintain a similar pace down the stretch.

 

I think so, mate. Don't think either of them expected Joshua to be able to physically recover the way he did, for which he deserves tremendous credit. A little foolish on their part perhaps to assume the 41 year old would be able to maintain a similar pace down the stretch.

 

I really don't think he can come back and clean out the division. HW may be weak overall, but there is some serious cream at the top. Joshua, Fury, Wilder, Whyte, Ortiz, Parker and Miller are all good fighters, which could pose a lot of trouble for even an ATG like Wladimir, especially at 43.

But, just for the heck of it. IF he came back and unified the division (after all, he COULD do it in just two fights), how would it affect his ranking in the ATG discussion? He is already an ATG HW, but would he shoot near the top with such an accomplishment? I say it would bring him damn near the likes of Lewis and Ali.

 

People forget that wlads best win even in his prime is povetkin a small heavyweight who's best win is carlos takam, While povetkin is a good technical fighter hes not proven to be any more dangerous than the likes or wilder,whyte, AJ,Fury or even ortiz or parker. Neither are all of those guy's proven to at this point, But assuming even prime wlad would beat the current top 5 heavyweights on any given night is no certainly by any stretch of the imagination. Theres not a single person wlad has beat that any of the current top 5 hw's couldn't also beat and that's a fact.

 

Suppose so but I don’t think Joshua had done twelve rounds before this as everyone was just getting blown away in a few rounds.He did that mad recovery s*** that he pulled on Whyte,one minute he looks dead on his feet so he then takes a few rounds off and then go again late,telling you AJ is as sharp as they come to use the full count against Wlad after getting hurt(Steve Bunce says his eyes were gone when he hit the canvas.