Wladimir Klitschko 2010 vs Wilder

So, Louis fought ZERO legit contenders? Is that what you're refusing to say because everyone will jump on you?

Name all of Louis' title challengers who would've made the top 10 in EVERY ERA in heavyweight history. You've got 20+ to choose from.

Or are you saying Wilder has faced MORE legit challengers in his reign than Joe Louis?

OR do you just want to forget you ever brought this up?

 

Come on we are comparing someone has never fought anyone of note to an ATG like prime vlad.

Ridiculous.

Wilder is an unproven bum, a farse of record and champion.

 

You brought Joe Louis up, I never did.

Let me know how many top 10 guys Wilder has fought in independent rankings and even then it’s a state of the weak division that certain fighters may have scraped in.

Again YOU brought up Louis.

 

Just the guy who beat Wlad, that's all.

 

Breazeale undoubtedly would be favored against Peter II, Brock, Brewster II, Mormeck, et al from that list. And Ortiz and Fury probably would be favored against all of them. Fury definitely would be.

 

Based on what your opinion?

Brocks victory over McCline craps over anything Breazeale has done to date, he is a walking punchbag.

The best version of Peter stops the best version of Breazeale this should really not be up for debate.

You are trying to push an agenda that really is not there.

Also how did I call you?

 

You said legit contenders were guys who would be ranked in the top 10 at heavyweight in any era. And you said Wilder defended against TWO legit contenders. And scoffed at that.

So, is two a BAD NUMBER when compared to ... say ... how many LEGIT CONTENDERS (guys who you feel would be ranked in the top 10 at heavyweight in any era) someone like the all-time GREAT JOE LOUIS defended against in his 25 defenses?

How many of his title challengers could make the top 10 in any era? I said two. You refused to answer.

You're the one nitpicking on who is a worthy LEGIT contender. Back it up.

How many LEGIT challengers (guys who would be ranked in the top 10 at heavyweight in any era) did Jack Johnson beat? Zero?
How many LEGIT challengers (guys who would be ranked in the top 10 at heavyweight in any era) did Jack Dempsey beat? One (maybe)?
How many legit challengers did (guys who would be ranked in the top 10 at heavyweight in any era) Marciano beat? Two? (I doubt Moore would.)

Spit it out. How bad is HAVING TWO LEGIT CHALLENGERS (according to your criteria) compared to other all-time greats?

Based on your own criteria, two isn't sounding too shabby right now.

 

Ortiz would certainly not be favoured over Haye, Chagaev, Ibragimov, Povetkin, Peter etc.

Fury himself would be 50/50 with a few of them to especially on recent performances.

 

Yes and got whooped by an out of Shape fury put of the ring for 2 years.

Wilder gets beat by anyone in the top 10 he's a bum

 

It’s bad in the era that is now especially when you have 11 title fights and only over the last 18months have you fought legit opposition.

 

You keep saying it's bad but won't answer how many LEGIT challengers the other all-timers defended against.

You won't compare other champs' challengers using the same criteria you're judging Wilder's by. Are you?

 

I don’t have to, I’m talking about Wilder yet you keep bringing up Louis and acting like I’m talking about other fighters.....I’m talking Wilder.

You want to talk other heavyweights/ATG’ etc start another thread and I’ll hop in.

You do your own dirty work.

 

Wlad by KO.

 

The legend of Wilder continues lol
I didn't realize icing an old man who was going at turtle pace for 7 rounds (because he's old as ****) is a big accomplishment.

 

I think Wlad would defeat him now. You can pick any year , either Klitschko would get him just in a different way depending when they fought. Wilder will be getting rattled by jabs in that one and have next to zero ability to do much . Wlad wins this fight 9 out of 10 times. Even if Wilder got a win ,if they fought 9 times after that Wlad wins all of them, he simply takes away Wilder one two needed combo system to set up wins, ...no one has a better one/two then Wlad did and wouldn't let Wilder be dragging his guard down with his ring IQ ,bc that's something Wlad does himself and would work wilder over on the inside if he wanted . .