Considering there were plenty of Brits picking Wlad, what's your problem? Haye is pants but so are the Klitschkos, do one you thread bumping spastic :hi:
I don't see much wrong with this poll to be honest. It was always a very difficult fight for David Haye given such a big difference in both size and experience. The poll is pretty much 50/50 on a British forum. And I actually believe Haye would have much more of a chance if he somehow got a rematch. If you want to laugh at a biased forum, check out the Pacquiao/Marquez III threads on the Philippine boxing forum where 80% of people thought Pacquiao won :nut
Emanuel Steward got it spot on when he said it would be Wladimir's footwork that will beat Haye. It was. Haye couldn't use his movement to offset/reset Wladimir in order to attack him because Wladimir was too good at cutting the ring off which closed up the angles Haye's movement was supposed to create that he was looking to attack on. Soon as Haye took at a step back he'd lost that fight.
Not really. Haye probably has a comparable reach to Wladimir, so competing on the outside shouldn't of been such an issue. Its just that Haye has little ability to compete on the outside with his jab, therefore he decided instead of trying to compete with his own jab, he would try and get Wladimir to give his height up by moving laterally trying to offset him, only as I said, he couldn't do that because Wladimir is so good at cutting the ring down. Wladimir didn't really make Haye feel his power either, so that argument doesn't stack up for me. Wladimir is just a better fighter when all said and done.
Soon as he took a step forward Wlad leaned on him, as he does with all fighters. Haye and Booth had obviously come up with what they saw as a genius plan to just go down whenever Wlad did his leaning trick. End result: Haye looked ridiculous
Wlad can only lean on you if you get close enough to him, which is where Haye should of tried to utilize his jab if he had any aspirations of winning. You're not gonna beat a Klit unless you have a jab. You have to try and compete on the outside and work your openings when trying to be aggressive. If you languish inside you will get tied up. If you stay on the outside trying to use movement you will only get the crumbs they leave you, as they try not to give up their height. One of the reasons Brock did okay early against Wladimir is because he stepped up to the pocket and was trying to compete with him with his own jab. Irony is Haye seemingly had a decent jab back in the day from what I've of his amateur bouts.
Another thing to........ One of the reasons Haye got tied up is because he was trying to throw big punches from the outside without having worked his way in. I said before the fight if Haye wasn't gonna use the jab to work his way in, and was gonna try and shoot in with punches, that he would have to prepared to fall short with the first 1 & 2, but provided he was following his combinations up, that he would eventually be able to close the range down, however as I say, he was loading up on big singles, so he couldn't find that second phase to close the distance that Booth was talking about. If you watch the rounds Haye did better in, it was when he put his combinations together and was prepared to follow up his attacks, as Wlad has a tendency to move straight back on the line before moving off in a circle. You throw a big 1 -2, how slow do you think your transition from that punch is gonna be to the next couple of punches, the 3 & 4? You will of over-committed and put too much weight on one side, meaning it will take longer to shift that weight so you cant follow up with another punch quick enough, which will of given the opponent enough to move away from the attack.
