its people like you who give mixed race people the reputation for being "confused" i have nothing against interracial relationships, people should be with whoever makes them happy, i couldnt care less personally- but you are contradicting yourself by labelling some blacks as "sellouts", when the majority of blacks class people like harrison/ haye etc sellouts for being with white women! U say black culture has taken a "knock" but if black men keep breeding outside their race there will be no more "black" culture at all in the UK, & eventually no more black people! So your point was completely bogus! david haye & audley harrison are individuals, they do not represent anyone but themselves! If u buy into the whole "support them coz there british" or "support them coz there black/mixed" then your a fool- coz all haye & harrison ever cared about is making money & keepin it movin! Haye & adam booth are great business men, & any aspiring fighter (regardless of race) can learn alot from them- but in terms of being a "role model for black youth" in general thats just laughable! If young kids are looking at celebrities as role models then the parents aint doing their job! I personally couldnt give a **** about race, in the ring ALL MEN ARE EQUAL, its a level playing field- i just wanna see good fights & good fighters, couldnt give a **** what colour or nationality they are, as long as there in good fights i'll follow them it would be good for boxing if haye beats klitschko, infact it would be good for boxing if ANYONE beats klitschko, because it would generate interest in the division again! As good as they are, the klitschkos simply do not capture the imagination of the average boxing fan- so for that reason i can understand people wanting haye to beat them! BUT i just dont see it happening, i think IF the fight happens Haye will more than likely lose in humiliating fashion, & just go down as another victim on klitschkos resume
Does David Haye looked confused to you..? what on earth are you on about. I know by the way you are speaking, you want David Haye to lose. I can tell that you have a problem........! Of course Audley Harrison & David Haye are representatives of black people, that comes with the title. Why should'nt children look upto athlete's..? Audley Harrson was a young offender into and out of juvenile prison, he was a school drop out. He re-educated him, capture a Olympic Gold Medal, was his own business man, was European Champion, and he is a Millionaire. There are things within some athlete's stories and struggles for success that everybody can be, inspired and take positivity from. You said that you could'nt care less what race or colour people are..? and everybody is on a level playing feild. You are a complete and utter fool, if you beleave that statement. Thats not how the cookie crumbles, and its not how the world spins around. There is still racism in boxing, also even in this counrty you have gypies like Tyson Fury whohave been victims of racism due to him being a gypo. This is not Disney World son, the world is a bad place. And you need to wake up and smell the coffee, The Rock came back to the WWE awhile back, and i came back to the British forum afew days ago, and i'm telling you and everybody esle......"How it is, and how its gonna be"...... And you can't do ****. Black people, and black culture is going nowhere. David Haye is a role model, and it is important for the British people that he wins, and it is important for black people aswell. Because we have no people in the limelight, who can speak and represent like David Haye, no athlete's that is.
Haye is no saviour, the guy just wants to make millions from this K fight and bail out to some shag hole in Cyrprus. The K's have dominated the HW scene for 8 years, put on big big fights and will continue to fight and KO whoever is worthy, long may they reign.
can you move this debate to somewhere else please, it's pointless and annoying and has nothing to do with the build up of this fight! thanks
what the **** has this thread turned into,get back on topic ya ****ing muppett knobjockeys:thumbsup haye will beat klitscho,ive no doubt in my mind,nothing to do with him being english/black with a white mum, chinese grandma and a outa mongolian 2nd cousin. just cos he is more exciting,throws more than a jab in 12 boring rounds,even against that 12foot cyclops valuev he did more than both klits have in there last 3 or 4 fights. the klits are 2 of the most boring fighters ever to grace the heavyweight scene ive seen in nearly 30years of watching boxing:rasta
As soon as the presser cancellation was revealed to be about ticketing I knew it would be about Hayes allocation. Anyone wanna take a guess at how many will travel. 15 - 20,000?
I'd say any thing between 20-30k. They should be giving us at least 25k, the Klitschkos would have known there would be a big travelling support. So I don't see what the problem is. This coming from the guys who said they don't care where and when the fight was just as long as they get Haye in the ring. :bart
Haye is not Hatton and Hamburg is not Vegas, even though it's closer. I'd say about 5 to 8 thousand tops.
You're right, LP. That's probabily a little conservative. Go with anything between 10 and 15. Just won't be as many as people think.