Wladimir Klitschko is now the greatest heavyweight who ever lived, according to Boxrec.

I wrote an equally lengthy reply but it was lost with a form resubmission, I will write it again at a later date

 

Just message me on it. Lets not do this in a thread. It's like you're my arch enemy and we always argue about something.

 

No problem, it will still be substantial so I won't write it now. It is a nause spending a while writing something only to lose it, even if it can be reproduced.

 

Boxrec have him at 6-7 for heavyweights now on a more updated list.

I personally have him 5th so not much a difference.

 

For me I can't see past Ali or Louis.

If I was wearing modern glasses I'd be looking at Lewis.

Wlad for me isnt an outlandish shout for 1. I wouldn't have him there myself, but I'm not gonna disagree to vehemently.

My only criticism of Wlad is that he was never as good as his big brother. But what he achieved was incredible.

 

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Highlights make anyone look good
Watching this, you would think he could steam roll usyk, but anyone with boxing knowledge knows usyk would beat him

 

Put a zero after the 1 and I'd maybe allow, but no way could I entertain he's the goat

Usyk in recent times, maybe even Fury are better and also his brother like you say. Never mind lewis

I think usyk would box him silly and the clinch wouldn't work on him

 

That's really high for a guy who beat nobody

 

Like I said i dont have him there.

 

I'm shocked anyone has him with lewis, Louis, Holmes Ali etc

Sure he has the numbers, but usyk has proven it isn't all numbers


Big brother key him shine

 

I don't have him number 1 mate.

 

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Just outside top ten for me.

1) Prime losses to C and B level guys
2) Not a single eye-catching win
3) Split the era with his brother rather than being undisputed
4) Negative, occasionally borderline illegal style
5) Not a single win against a quality puncher his own size

Nonetheless, 17 or 23 defenses, depending on how you count, is enough for a 11 or 12 spot.

 

He was a dominant long reigning champ just like all of them not insane to see it considering there aren't any other dominant long reigning champs in the division