Wladimir klitschko is slaughtered for his level of opposition

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  1. The Mongoose

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    I pointed how he eludes punches, he ducks beneath him. The right glove is open in front of his chin, ready to catch and parry, a lost art form I'm not surprised you didn't recognize. Tua's glove is in the same position but modern fighters don't parry, so he keeps it glued to his chest like a shield.

    Studied boxing for years, eh? You can't see that they are in the same stance, one guy is just in a guard, the other is looking to parry?

    You an see Galento slipping Louis' jab in the video. All of this is of course to just set up the left hook as Galento didn't mind taking two or three to land one. Galento had an all time great chin that only failed him against Louis' combinations.

    Here's Tua walking straight in with his arms down to his chest, not moving nearly as much as Galento, and taking tons of punishment, especially to close the second round. Tua like Galento relied on his chin and only moved when he was wanting to counter.

    Rahman has an easier time landing his jab on Tua, than Louis did on Galento in the early rounds. And lets be clear, Rahman is no Joe Louis when it comes to jabbing.

    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvfBF6bBQjw[/url]
     
  2. The Mongoose

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    Eh..I'm done here.

    You are out of league and can't even begin to present a basic breakdown and argument.

    You can say "more technically gifted and advanced" but exposed yourself as being completely ignorant of Galento's arm positioning.
     
  3. Man_Machine

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    Yep. Good points and a good example.

    For all Max's clowning around, I doubt it was his intention for the bout with Louis to end the way it did.
     
  4. Dubblechin

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  5. Madmanc

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    I know rachman is a slob and not a world beater,I know tua wasn't a great either I didn't bring either up for that matter,just once they where threw into the mix I said they are far better than primitive fighters such as Louis's bum a month fighters and 99% of his resume
     
  6. Azzer85

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    Fair enough. And i think dubblechin above pretty much obliterated that point.
     
  7. Madmanc

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    His resume isn't better but not going through the loop again it's getting like a PAC floyd thread now
     
  8. Madmanc

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    I'm not professing to be the all knowing guru of boxing first of all,secondly a good double jab would negate his 'shield' it's a forgotten art for a reason and the straight right that follows spells danger.as for not realising his stance is like tua's,I've never compared the 2,I've simply said tau is by far the better fighter because frankly he is and would ok him double quick Ruiz style
     
  9. Azzer85

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    no no, please do provide a response as to why his resume isnt better. You cant start a thread on it and then not discuss it
     
  10. Azzer85

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    How can you claim Tua would KO him quick style, when you know nothing about him?

    By your own admission you said you've never compared the two fighters.

    Secondly...shall i break down Tuas career for you?

    Actually on second thoughts, i wont mention the fact that Tua took 9 rounds to KO Fres Oquendo, a C level fighter
     
  11. The Mongoose

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    -I certainly never mistook you for a guru. I just pointed out your own claim that you studied boxing for years.

    -No, because the first jab would be smacked down and you would eat a left hook in response as Louis found out. Nova had a fantastic double jab as shown in the video I posted, Galento countered him to death.

    I must disagree as Wlad uses parrying quite effectively and he's been near untouchable for years now.

    -Your only offered basis for claiming Tua being better was the way Galento holded his arms. And you admit you were wrong about that as they use an identical crouching guard. One man just has an opened right glove, and looks to parry, the other does not.

    -Galento in a very long career was never KOed in a single round, he was in fact never put down for the count by anybody. He was only put down once by Louis after flush combinations, but he still got up and was stopped on cuts. Tua couldn't put Rahman too sleep in two efforts so I doubt your prediction would unfold.
     
  12. HerolGee

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    like a pc Floyd thread, dontbe ridiculous, Wlad never fougth opposition like they did nor had anywhere near the same success. Wlad is nothing like pac nor Floyd.

    of course its better, are you stupid? lost to ATG Marciano when he was shot, lost and easily avenged Schmeling.

    compared to getting destroyed by journeymen and retirees and running scared shitless from a rematch to go fight weaker opponents instead.
     
  13. Dubblechin

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  14. Azzer85

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    Another thing which i forgot to mention.

    Tua NEVER Ko'd a quality, world class, durable fighter, except John Ruiz.

    All his opposition had been knocked out in much quicker fashion, some of them before and after Tua faced them

    Lets use Maskaev as an example.

    Tua TKO 11 Maskaev
    Mcall knocked out Maskaev in one round,
    Johnson KO4 Maskaev
    Whitaker KO2 Maskev
    Sanders KO8 Maskaev
    Peter TKO6 Maskaev
    Aguleira KO1 Maskaev

    Tua is overrated and never stopped a durable fighter his whole career, except John ****ing Ruiz. Yet hes going to stop a guy that had never been stopped before, except by Joe Louis
     
  15. Madmanc

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    Oquendo would beat galento with ease that is my point,I have watched gale to fight years ago it's not someone I have watched recently or would go out of my way to watch,like I've said a million times I'm not saying Tua or Rachmaninov are great either so why would I want you to break tua's career down for me ?