Wladimir klitschko is slaughtered for his level of opposition

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  1. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah I just don't agree at all. David Tua was a much better fighter than Galento. If you watch their fights it becomes incredibly obvious that Tua was bigger, stronger faster and punched harder. Tony was a product of his era, an obese chain smoking alcoholic who wouldn't have achieved nearly the same success if he were fighting in a later era. Tony Galento wouldn't have beaten the fighters Tua beat.
     
  2. HerolGee

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    yet galento comfortably managed 15 round fights, whilst todays top fat hws gass frequently in 5.
     
  3. Madmanc

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    Anyone with eyes and no bias can see the same thing,it's laughable people are actually trying to argue the point
     
  4. Madmanc

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    Tua went at Lewis a full 12 rounds,Lewis is better than gallento ever went in with
     
  5. HerolGee

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    yep sure tua did, no problem with that.
     
  6. The Mongoose

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    Nah, I would rate Louis over Lewis.

    And I think Nova is the best win between either man.
     
  7. The Mongoose

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    Bigger? Both guys are about 5'9" and when in shape, weighed 220-230 when in shape. They are the same size and build. Galento maybe actually has the longer reach.

    [url]http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/pictures/t/tonygalento/01.jpg[/url]


    [url]http://waytofamous.com/images/david-tua-01.jpg[/url]

    Faster? I think they were both equally quick with the left hook and single shots, Tua was quicker with combinations when he bothered to throw them.

    Punched Harder? They both laid out the same quality of fighter with their best punch. Tony probably has the best single scalp in Nova.

    -Who did Tua really beat? Pre-Clinching Ruiz, a washed up Moorer, a controversial stoppage over Rahman, and a bunch of fringe contenders? Galento could match those accomplishments just as easily as Tua could match Mann and Ettore. Now Nova would probably beat the **** out of Tua though.
     
  8. madballster

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    You realize Galento was a bar-owner and part-time boxer. He did virtually no sparring, was an admitted drunkard. His pre-fight diet consistent of gigantic bowls of spaghetti, flushed down with a gallon of ice cold beer.

    Tua was a skilled boxer, with fast hands, good movement and a murderous punch. Galento was a joke. A crude street brawler with zero skill. A non-boxer. Any version of Tua would easily outbox and clown Galento.
     
  9. The Mongoose

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    Yet you can't even address the Galento clip I posted.
     
  10. The Mongoose

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    Galento occassionally did get in shape and as a vet of over 100 pro fights, did learn some things. He also talked trash and liked to build his own myth, no telling how much of his infamous "poor training" was exaggerated.

    I've posted a clip and video of Galento eluding the great Joe Louis' jab and popping up for some quick left hooks. Can you address that? A fighter with zero skill would not be able to slip Joe Louis and overcome a huge reach advantage to tag him with clean shots.

    And you do realize that with all his schooling, Tua rarely demonstrated much in the ring. He often followed his opponents around, getting under the jab, and loading up with the left hook like Galento did.
     
  11. Madmanc

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    Jack sharkey had 12 losses and 4 draws before he fought Louis

    Max Baer had 8 including a loss to 44-23-4 Jim Braddock who is somehow a hall of famer,imagine if wales faced someone with that record ?

    Billy conn was a lhw and nearly and should have won the 1st,imagine wlad vs kovalev ??

    Tha AMBLING alp,says it all,his only notable victory was against an ageing jack sharkey who had been beaten numerous times before yet he makes it into the HOF lol,can you see the bias and rose tinted ness yet ?
    Jimmy bivvins,another lhw,he had 20 losses on his record when Louis beat him so what was so great about Louis being the 21st ?
    Walcott had an awkward style and a good punch,good win although he lost the 1st.
    Marciano beat him
    Charles great fighter,lost to him,to his credit he was past it when he lost to the last 2.

    I'm not trying to slag Louis and like I said loads of old time fighters get the same praise but it's bs.people will give Louis credit for beating a bum in one breath,then slag paquiao in the next for beating elite fighters way above his natural weight who are immensely more talented and technically gifted than anyone Louis beat with 0 or 1 losses,it's pathetic
     
  12. ForemanJab

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    That just ends the debate right there. Galento could never match the technique,chin, stamina, quickness and vicious explosive power that Tua possesed.
     
  13. Madmanc

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    Yea nova is far better than all Lewis's opposition,I'll take it you r joking,plus the fact gallento didn't go 15 or 12 with Louis either
     
  14. Madmanc

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    I didn't realise anyone had replied with an answer it's not that I'm lying
     
  15. The Mongoose

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    -Sharkey was a great fighter, past his best. It wouldn't ever be priased as a top 5 win for Louis. More the point of Louis at such a novice stage destroying a past it great.

    -Baer's record is deceptive as many fighters at the time are. Most of those losses were when he was a novice, touring the country and taking on contenders at short notice. Going into Louis he was 15-1 in the previous 5 years and recognized as a top fighter. He had never been down before or stopped. His Hall of Fame career is genuine.

    -Braddock had a bad record but we know the story. He was boxing through injuries to put food on the table.

    -Not the same as HWs weren't as big than and today would be classed as cruisers. Conn/Louis was more similar to Haye/Wlad.

    -No. Sharkey deserves his Hall of Fame spot. Nobody fought more top 10 fighters than him, he was taking on everybody from the moment he went pro, and he had some great wins. Remarkable career.

    -Bivins was past his best but so was Louis. It was like Jones Jr./Calzaghe. Good win but something that should have happened a long time ago.

    I gave the elite names, not necessarily the best men Louis beat on that particular night.

    I think Louis' best wins were(in no order):

    Walcott II
    Conn I
    Schemling II
    Pastor I and II
    Godoy II
    Nova
    Baer