Wladimir Klitschko next undisputed HW Champ?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Ivan Drago, Apr 16, 2013.


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  1. Ivan Drago

    Ivan Drago You Will Lose. Full Member

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    I reckon Vitali Klitschkos time as WBC champion is over, I give it a year tops until he retires. When this happens could we see Wladimir becoming an undisputed champion as with his brother out the way he would surely now challenge for the belt. It would be the first undisputed champion of the heavyweight division since Lewis in 1999.

    I ask as undisputed champions are rare these days and I wonder whether the achievement would say more about the state of the HW division or Wladimirs ability.

    Can he do it? Is it a credible achievement? Or am I writing off Vitali too soon?
     
    Ivan Drago, Apr 16, 2013
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  2. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dumb dumb dumb. Wlad is undisputed champ, because you need just three titles to be undisputed. He will be the first champ ever who will have all the ****ing belts in a time where it is close to impossible to unife that much belts
     
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  3. H .

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    to answer your question, yes.
    Wladimir isn't losing any time soon, too damn good
     
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  4. Ivan Drago

    Ivan Drago You Will Lose. Full Member

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    Don't you need all 4 of WBC, WBO, WBA and IBF for it to be officially considered as undisputed?

    I think Vitali does dispute it as he is a champ and people always ask who would win so there are clearly people who feel that Vitali is, or at least was, better.
     
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  5. Ivan Drago

    Ivan Drago You Will Lose. Full Member

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    Completely agree. Ashame the only two great fighters in the division for a LONG time are brothers and won't fight.
     
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  6. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Undisputed is: WBC + WBA + IBF

    If you don't have those 3 belts you are NOT UNDISPUTED, otherwise every schmuck will be undisputed

    If Vitali vacates the WBC, then he will give his brother a chance to become Undisputed
     
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  7. Espin88

    Espin88 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But the WBC have a "No Unification" rule now so it'd be impossible anyway.
     
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  8. Robney

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    I think that as soon as Vitali vacates the WBC belt you can call Wlad the undisputed champ. The WBC doesn't want to be in a unification because that means they lose a lot of control over the belt. Nobody (sane) on the planet will call the guy who picks up the vacant strap to be "the champ" instead of Wlad.
     
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  9. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wlad's is the undisputed champion already.
     
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  10. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Not without the WBC belt he's not.
     
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  11. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Without the WBC he is. Vitali holding that belt doesn't change anything.
     
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  12. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Sure it does. It means it belongs to Vitali and not Wlad, therefor Wlad is not undisputed champ.
     
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  13. weegriffin

    weegriffin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    WBC have a no unification rule though anyway. So how can you become undisputed now?

    Vitali beat Samuel Peters for the WBC someone Wlad already beat.
     
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  14. Vergilius

    Vergilius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Since wbc won't allow unification bouts the "undisputed" accomplishment is now impossible and/or meaningless. Given the plethora of meaningless titles, it makes sense to view WK as "the champ" at HW - screw the belts and all other titles.
     
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  15. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Look here, I've became an archeologist!

    Question to the new (and the old I guess too, lol) guard here: did you consider Wlad the undisputed champion after Vitali vacated the WBC belt and before Stiverne won it?

    He was introduced as such in his bouts against Leapai and Pulev and technically there was no dispute who was the champion since nobody else had a claim.
     
    MaccaveliMacc, Feb 5, 2025
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