Wladimir Klitschko Ranking And Discussion

No top 40. He has yet to beat one of the three best heavyweight contenders in the division valuev, undefeated champion chagaev, and potvekin. once he starts beating these guys, then well talk.

if he beats valuev potvekin chagaev and haye, he defintley moves into the top 20. his 3 embarrasing losses to unrated opposition by knockout keeps him from my top 15.

I think that version of wladimir is better than this lethargic boring pawing version of wladimir.

the 1990s wladimir his offensive tools rate WAY UP THERE top 10 of all time. that version of wlad was a machine. this version of wlad's offense is a joke, his jab has turned into his paw, he has no left hook anymore....he has become righthand crazy and telegraphs it like its his job.

 

wlad right now has the opportunity to be a great heavyweight regardless of eras etc fact is both brothers would give any fighter throughout history a serious fight,if he carries on with a couple more big wins and retires on top,i willl give serious consideration to the all time list and yes he will definately be in my top 15 and if vit comes back and beats peter for the title after a 4 year layoff then hes going in my top 10 all time,big if but hell yeah! I MEAN THINK JAMES JEFFRIES A GUY WHO MANY HAVE IN THERE TOP 10 HE CAME BACK AND FOUGHT THE YOUNG J JOHNSON AFTER A 6 YEAR LAYOFF ADMITTEDLY HE WAS WAY PAST HIS PRIME AND WELL INTO MIDDLE AGE BUT HE GAVE JJ HELL FOR 14 ROUNDS BUT WAS JUST TOO FAR GONE IN THE END,IF VK DOES PULL IT OFF THEN LET THE HATERS HATE,TOP 10 FOR ME!

and i just realised capslock is on,ah well!

1.tunney
2.dempsey
3.johnson
4.louis
5.marciano
6.ali
7.lewis
8.holmes
9.tyson
10.jeffries

 

Suzieq once said he has Wald at #42!

That is a joke.

In truth Wlad's winning percentage, KO percentage, record in world title fights, and amount of time KO's is MUCH better than several ATG's.

IMO, Wlad is around 20 right now. A win over Povektin will help. If Povetkin can win a belt later, or Ibragimov boucnes back to win a belt as Peter has, it will enhance Wlad even more.

 

I am a HUGE wladimir Klitschko fan, so don't try to take that away from me Mendoza. I rate wlad at 42 because of his losses, and the fact he still has not proven himself fully yet....but hes getting there.

 

But he has also been knocked out THREE times by UNRATED opponents. I checked ring magazine annuel ratings, brewster sanders and purrity were all unrated going into the fights. the purrity and brewster knockouts happened when he was well ahead on points but simply panicked, and the sanders loss was to a 37 year olf golfer near retirement who had yet to beat a single rated opponent in his career!...... making all 3 of these losses even worse!

 

If wlad dominated potvekin.....he moves up from 42 to 36 on my all time heavyweight list. A dominant win over a very talented undefeated olympic gold medalist mandatory is impressive.

If wlad beats undefeated champion chagaev, and giant champion 48-1 vastly underated valuev, he moves into my top 20

 

you could pick over anyones resumes..

perfection is unatainable, being bpedantic and rolling out the cliche "well he knocked him down etc"is not only utterly unoriginal but ultimately flawed when bringing arguments to the table...

i.e ali:bonavena,wepner,cooper etc gave him hell at times,there hardly great are they?

 

There is no way 40 heavyweights rank above him. That's on resume, skills and them two combined. No matter how much you claim to be a fan of his, it's clear you are biased against him. Whether it's because you don't like his fans or you think he's overrated, I'm not sure. But you are one of the biggest most irrational Klitschko haters on this entire forum.

And his losses don't mean much in the grand scheme of things. Embarrassing, absolutely, but they shouldn't define his career.

 

Huh? What was Schemling rated when he upset Louis?

What was Douglas Rated when he upset Tyson?

Sanders was rated as high as #3 by the ring. Brewster was way up there was well. Both men were champions, and even had some good perfomances in losses vs other champions.

Purrity was a journeyman. You know, the type in the 1930's-1950's that could beat ranked contenders.

 

Well Klitschko effectively ended Brock's career. He gave him a beating that has probably stopped him from ever fulfilling his potential. Maybe that fight is comparable to Calzaghe/Lacy rather than Calzaghe/Kessler.

I guess you could apply the same to Brewster too. If he doesn't beat Toney when they fight, is it a result of the hammering he took against Klitschko? Or is it because he's past it, which is why Klitschko could batter him?

I think Ibragimov will improve his standing though. I think he'll be a good heavyweight for a number of years yet, but I have a feeling the win will be tainted by Ibragimov switching back to his old trainer. Mayweather did nothing positive for him and if Ibragimov had used his old style, he would have done much better against Klitschko.