Wladimir Klitschko-Ruslan Chagaev RBR thread

Loving Lee's new beard its inspired me to keep growing mine

 

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"Damned if you do, damned if you don't"....movement (angles) and speed are the way to do it IMHO but I'm not sure Haye can take getting clipped on the way in buy even a half-blooded right hand.

 

Fair play most things against wald usually result in a jab in the face

Rushing Wald seems to be very shaky under pressure but those jabs must carry some power because most fighters look unwilling to take them after a round or two.

I think Haye's unorthodox ducking and weaving will be a problem the thing is he doesn't move forward while doing it. I hope Booth and Haye have a good game plan.

 

Of course you gotta rush him. That's the only hope. Thing is, that wasn't Chagaev's game. He's a cautious counterpuncher, but he found his world fell apart tonight because you can't counterpunch a guy half a foot taller with arms like treetrunks. He couldn't adapt, truthfully.

If you can put some kind of educated pressure on Wlad, and slip the jab, you are in business because he doesn't counterpunch, he only leans back or holds on. If you keep punching and are prepared to miss you can have some success.

It's tough though, because "slipping the jab" is not easy unless you are prime Mike Tyson. Mike Tyson is the definitive guy with the perfect style to light up Klitschko. Others could do it, Lennox Lewis, Larry Holmes and such but Tyson would do it quick.

 

The next time i hear someone slate Lee over Manny stewards ******ed quote about future hall of famer I'm going go mental. Every time i see him fight that gets thrown in his face.

 

Amen.

 

Lee was a bit sloppy tonight, but he finished well. He needs to get some more fights in Ireland in front of a good atmosphere, don't you think?

 

Lee's been a bit sloppy or his past 3 or 4 fights. At some point you have to come to the conclusion he isn't as talented as originally thought.

He should drop down a weight too, he ain't no middle. He's got no strength there.

 

I just don't think Lee is that good TBH.

 

I feel sorry for every Brit who went over there, wasn't exactly the most exciting card!

 

Lee has lost his way in the last couple of fights, the best I have seen him was against Willie Gibbs, he boxed very well that night, avoided Gibbs bombs and then blasted him in the final round. Tonight he told his man for granted, everyone I spoke to thought his opponent was an utter bum, but he was tough enough.

 

I think he could do with ditching manny to be honest. I haven't seen Lee get better on the inside which i thought would have been priority after the Vera fight.

Would love to see him come back here for a few fights Peters will move him along a lot quicker than following Manny around facing people that won't really challenge him.

Lee looked very sloppy no head movement no defence against the guy getting inside. That fight didn't make sense to me at all the Latvian guy was about a mile behind Willie Gibbs. He should stay in Ireland and let Peters get him the fights. When i compare how i have seen him in America or anywhere else besides Ireland he looks bad. On home soil he looked very good. The opponents are better and Lee performs better.

 

yeah I am glad I didnt go that was pretty grim....wish I could have seen Klits entrance though....that about it...

 

I cant see him leaving Manny, he seems to idolise Manny, but I prefer him to get back to Ireland, like you said he has fought his best fights at home and I think that is were he needs to serve his apprenticeship. It has worked for Dunne and I think it could work for Lee, but Lee is in a very tough division.

I agree, his defence was pretty bad tonight, a bit like the Vera fight tbh...