Wladimir Klitschko: The most disrespected Champion in boxing

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  1. Suge Green

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    :rofl

    Now the only reason someone can be ducked is because of their performance in that particular division...???


    It's the mind games...Haye accosted him, WLAD acted like he would fight him...but then ViTKLiT hopped a flight to London. :oops:
     
  2. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    I for one, am sort of disappointed in Haye, that he took the weaker route and went after the old man Klitschko. He must have obviously seen something there at ringside that scared him off of the Wlad fight.
     
  3. Otodat

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    Vitale WAS better than Wlad, but only because Wlad became a different fighter. Wlad is the more talented fighter, but there's a difference between being the more talented fighter and being the better fighter. Vitale's had a lot of injuries and doesn't look like the old Vitale. He was one of my favorite fighters right when he retired because I liked his powerful jab and how powerful he was as a puncher. I'm excited to see him fight Haye, and actually give him the edge in this fight.
     
  4. Suge Green

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    Not at all.

    You are just an idiot, who tries to play games instead of have productive discussion.

    Just tell yourself I'm 8 and it will be ok.

    You don't know **** about the topic. I don't like WLad or Haye, so I can call it like I see it.

    You are in love with WLAD, and see everything in a manner that reflects that fact.
     
  5. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    Oh well... if Haye can't beat the inactive, injury riddled Klitschko with less skills, who is pushing 40 years old, then he definitely doesn't deserve to be in the ring with Wlad.
     
  6. CHEF

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    You might be upset that Vitali is the front runner to fight Haye, but to say "Wlad ducking Haye" is wrong.....its about business and $$$$. Your logic make no sense. Name 1 fighter that Wlad has ducked? he never has. Why would Wlad all of a sudden duck Haye? You give Hayes abilities way to much credit if you think thats why "Wlad is ducking"
     
  7. KobeIsGod

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    purely subjective. im trying to look at facts. again, u can believe what u like. WLad is not a confrontational person. He does his talking in the ring. So to say Haye won the "mindgames" and chased wlad out of the fight is without merit.

    IMO, Wlad treated Haye like a spoiled child who was having temper tantrum :yep
     
  8. CHEF

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    :good
     
  9. Otodat

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    There's no way you can claim that Haye is taking the easy route. That's ridiculous. Vitale is most definitely not an easy route. Do you think that he's not going to try and fight Wlad if he beats Vitale? Come on. And that's only if he beats Vitale. I've watched Haye fight in a few fights, and he's going to have to bring something new to the table to beat Vitale, otherwise he will find himself in a very difficult situation, regardless of how injured Vitale. He definitely doesn't want this fight to go the distance.
     
  10. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    Exactly. I guess Suge failed to watch the way that Derrick Jefferson (huge puncher) talked to Wlad before their fight. Wlad NEVER bothers to drop to the level of his opponent and run his mouth outside of the ring. He always lets them open their mouth, and then shoves his glove in it during the fight.
     
  11. Brendan

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    Ali is the most overrated boxer in history.

    Whether struggling with sausauge makers, getting knocked on his ass by old, out of shape liquor store owners or running from opponents for entire fights and getting gift decisions, Ali was a proven sham.

    He was just a huge unit mover in the 60's with his anti-war, anti establishment, anti-whitey stance.


    SPLARG!!!
     
  12. CHEF

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  13. No Fear

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    I'm not upset at all! I'm delighted there's finally a HW fight to get excited about!

    What have business and $$$$ got to do with a fighter's legacy? The chances are that we won't see four or five world class heavyweights (and I include including Wlad and Vitali in that) battling it out any time soon. So all Wlad can do is take the biggest fights around and keep winning. Which, to his credit, he has done.

    As I've said before, the only big fight in the HW division is Haye - Klitschko. Politicians the world over can learn something about PR from David Haye. I don't think Haye's abilities are why it is the only big fight in the division. It's because every other heavyweight can be labelled as a tomato, fat bum, freak or over-the-hill-ex-champ and how is beating a tomato, fat bum, freak or over-the-hill-ex-champ a legacy enhancing victory?

    As I've said before, one of the Klitschkos grabbed the biggest fight in the division with both hands, the other "stepped aside".

    No matter how hard to try, you haven't convinced anyone that 'stepping aside' is any different from 'ducking'.
     
  14. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    I am simply playing the same games that the haters are playing. Don't mind me.:good

    I have already stated the simple truth of this matter. Wlad vs Haye COULD NOT HAPPEN before a year from now. You can't build up that sort of mega fight in 3-4 months. Wlad HAS to fight Povetkin within 9 months. All parties involved are smart enough to know what they have on their hands here. People who are buying into all of the other nonsense just don't know the ins and outs of this business. A fight against Vitali at this point would be just as big as a fight against Wlad... because Haye isn't quite proven yet. So... they can build up the fight against Vitali for the summer... that way they don't risk Haye having to fight against another top contender in the meantime and possibly ending the big fights that are on the horizon. So, Vitali and Haye can fight in the summer... then... if Haye loses, it was still a big fight against a Klitschko, he got his payday, and there is no shame in losing against Vitali. Now, if Haye happens to BEAT Vitali, which I don't think is impossible given Vitali's current state. He hoenstly is not 75% of the fighter that he was. I have followed his entire career, and he looked like he was standing in mud vs Peter. He has had very horrible back and leg problems over the past 4 years.... including two surgeries. Now, if Haye does beat Vitali... can you imagine the mega fight that we would have between Haye and Wlad? It would be HUGE, and definitely be the biggest Heavyweight fight since Lewis/Tyson. It would be exactly the shot in the arm that the Heavyweight division is looking for. Not only that, but if Haye beat Vitali, he would jump up in the top 3 for the ring ranking at Heavyweight, and the winner of Haye vs Wlad would also be Crowned as the Ring champ on top of everything else. This is the BEST, and really the only route to go right now.
     
  15. Brendan

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    Vitali would slaughter Wlad.

    Props to Gaye.