Wladimir Klitschko v Lennox Lewis

21-4 to The Lion.

 

The difference between Lennox and Wlad, in my estimation, has always been this; when a fight doesn't go to plan Lennox can change his tactics to adapt but Wlad doesn't have that flexibility.

It comes with the fact that Lennox had more dimensions to his game, he could box, he could brawl, he could work at range and he could fight inside, he was a more versatile than Wlad, and Wlad never looked comfortable when he couldn't fight his own fight, when he couldn't keep at range and jab and take pot-shot, and he had no inside game, he just used his size to lean on people and to clinch.

Wlad certainly had the power and the ability to beat Lennox, but I would favour Lewis 8 times out of 10.

 

Lewis by late tko or decision

At their best both can spoil using their height and reach and would probably do so against each other to protect their less than stellar chins.

This could be a real stink fest.

If they did go toe to toe, either guy could take out the other, although it would be more likely Lewis landing first and doing more damage.

 

i've not thought that for one second, but its interesting that you need to resort to claiming that.

Let me know why u resort to claiming that.

the criteria is elite is one who by and large beats all except perhaps other elites.
let me know what doesnt fit that, because his whole world level career fits it fine.

why did you write "once" when i wrote "again again again"
explain why you interpret "again again again" as "once". else u have no argument.

its been the same ever since someone explained it to me years ago.
Let me know why you want to claim that I'm changing it.

 

tis finished for you, son. u been tkoed in 5.

ha using the old "the world is on my side not yours". But no actual advancement on your argument.

 

According to this poll, theres less than 4% odds of an ATG right hand stopping a guy who was one-shotted twice by lesser right hands.

spoiler alert: I was the one who voted for it, knowing it would be the most underrepresented option on the table. Take my vote away and the poll is at zero percent.

And people still call Lennox underrated?

 

Lewis the alpha lion would crush Wladimir the cowardly lion, as the poll reflects

 

The fight's always been a question, to me, of whether Lennox can take the shots it takes to bring the fight inside, where I think his uppercut would be the punch of the fight for him. Wlad's more one-dimensional, but it's a heck of a dimension, and Lennox is going to have to get through it first to score with that uppercut. If he gets there, I have no question that punch in particular would do some real damage.

People don't like to acknowledge it, but Wlad was better on the outside. Better footwork, better jab, straighter right hand, and tighter left hook. The latter two punches carrying genuine one-shot power. It's not a stretch to say he's got a top 10 jab, left hook, and straight right. As far as outboxers go, those are the punches you want mastered, and no heavyweight outboxer had a better combination of those three punches (if someone wanted to argue for Louis, I could see a case for him). He also did it against a wider range of styles, whereas Lennox's resume MO was taking out the orthodox slugger.

What makes the match intriguing is that each man hits plenty hard enough to knock the other out, and both have money punches the other is vulnerable to. It's a great matchup, and neither man winning would surprise me. I can't help but laugh at how Wlad's getting written off like some Golota clone.

 

This.

People remember Lewis' big victories, but they don't remember the times that he stunk the joint out and barely did enough to win. Wlad was extremely consistent and always came (with maybe 1-2 exceptions) 100% focused into his fights. That's why I said, if it's a boxing match Wlad wins. Lewis would need to take some risks to win this one, and trying to force the pace on Wlad can result in a trip to the canvas. This fight is far closer than the poll reflects.

 

Wlad was more effective with Manny than Lewis against other opposition but Manny would never side with Klitchko bc Steward was with Lewis first.

The timeline itself suggest it would be a young Wlad vs Lewis of 2001. Making this match a true fantasy match BC Steward can't be in both corners.

 

That's a fair assessment, and I fully believe Wlad was capable of beating Lewis and stopping him, it's just that I'd favour Lewis more Wlad.

 

Except he wasn't and footage against similar fighters prove it. Better this , better that .. thats not an argument.

If Lewis wanted to keep a guy on the outside i.e David Tua , then thats exactly where they were staying.

Peter wouldn't get close to Lewis let alone drop him , run him around the ring and force him to hold on for dear life in EVERY round like he did with Wlad.
Wlad in two fights couldn't keep Peter on the outside. Not even in the second fight when Peter was on his last legs.


Unlike Wlad , Lewis wouldn't need to break the compu-clinch record to fend off Povetkin. The uppercut is the remedy to a guy like Povetkin and it would have been used to deadly effect.

Guys like Haye , Chambers , Peter , Jennings all saw 12 rounds vs Wlad. It would leave no doubt as to who was better from the outside if they fought Lewis. . But a guy like Haye would never have stepped inside the ring with Lewis.

The Wlad right hand wouldn't even be a factor since the battle of the jabs would be won by Lewis' far superior jab.
Seeing what that jab did to Vitali , its very possible that Wlad would be knocked out off that punch alone.
Id shudder to think what a right hand would do to him.

 

Except for that's bull****.

Billups, Mercer say hi.

Rahman and McCall say hi.

Would've, could've, should've ... Lewis never fought a guy like Povetkin so you're spinning fairy tales yet again.

More bull****. After Wlad solved his gassing problem he never had the urgency to KO people as he did early on. He was happy to outpoint people.

More bull****. Since when was Haye scared to fight?

Klitschko's jab was superior and its not really a debate

 

Lewis by brutal KO inside 3...similar ending to Golata fight

 

If we're talking both at their absolute prime then I'll have to go for Lewis in a blow out.
A few of their fundamentals are evenly matched although I think Lewis is the much more rounded fighter especially with his inside game.
To me though this would also come down to mental strength. Wlad after his knockout losses was simply terrified of being hit.
I think Lewis would simply over power Wlad and take him out inside 5 or 6 rounds.
Lewis is simply all wrong for Wlad both mentally and physically.