Wladimir Klitschko vs. Alex Leapai on April 26 in Germany

I never said the guy parrying was the guy countering, did I? Again, that was your inability to read correctly. but answer me this, high horse (or anyone else who has ever fought)....is it possible to feint a fighter into a chopping parry such as Wlads and counter him? So high horse, it seems i know a little more about this than you. Of course you could disagree, but would would ever believe you have fought before if you did? Now grow up a bit, ok?

 

- atsch

-NO, it's clear you have no clue what you are talking about. You can counter punch a jab or feint to create an opening, but you can't counter punch an actual parry. A parry means your punch has already been anticipated and deflected. :nono A counter punch can only occur if your opponent is commiting to a punch, not knocking yours out of his face.

-The victim of a parry is usually open to a counter, not the other way around. Wlad and Vitali both do this, knock down their opponent's punches and jab them or hit them with a right after their arm has been swatted down.

 

you feint to get your opponent to parry and than you counter punch. Its clear you dont know what you're talking about. And you were the one who said just a few posts ago you couldnt parry then counter. Its nice how you change your tune to suit your own arguments. Clown. :yep

 

Right glove parrys a left jab. Why do fighters hook off the jab? Answer: To create anopening set up by getting the opponent to attempt a parry at said jab.

 

-Your opponent has to commit to a punch for you to counter it.

-I never said that. :huh

 

That's not a counter, it's a combination.

atsch

 

If I follow you feel the key to beating Wlad is a 1-2 combination. Throw the left hand, get him to parry it, than follow with a right cross.

Wow, that was way harder than it should have been. And no, I don't think that is going to get the job done. Even if you just feint the jab.

atsch

 

Here Haye feints a jab to the body and tries the right cross to the head.

Wlad just brings up his hand and parrys the right hand.

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credit to Vidic for gif.

 

Wrong, its a counter set up by a combination. The jab sets up an opponents parry to countered by the hook. You boxed? Really? :-(

 

No. The parry leaves an opening that the hook exploits. It is not a counter punch. A parry is not a punch recieved. It is a deflection of your punch.

What's sad is you spend on this time on a boxing forum, act like a "know it all" and have no idea what a counter punch is.




noun: counterpunch; plural noun: counterpunches; noun: counter-punch; plural noun: counter-punches

1. 1.
   a punch thrown in return for one received
   
   
   
   

 

Are you really this dense or are you just trolling? You feint with the jab, when your opponents parry hand comes down you counter with the hook. This isn't rocket science kid. atsch

 

You said "hooking off the jab" as in what Wlad does. What you desecribed in this post is not really "hooking off the jab"...because a jab was really not thrown. Sigh...

I really wouldn't have a problem with semantics, everyone uses words differently but are so inconsistent it is difficult to figure out what you are describing. Your right it isn't rocket science, just say the specific "actions" you think should work against Wlad that nobody has ever tried before. .

 

And you're just as inconsistent for taking everything so literal. If you fought than you do understand the semantics. I have little doubt of this, you just like to be argumentive because of a personal dislike.

 

Well, I'm out of time and leaving for a while. You had your chance to say what you think would work, and this is what you provide.

You failed to expose Wlad's parrying as ridiculious. I've provided an example of the much quicker David Haye feinting and Wlad still deflecting his intended punch. I don't think simply feinting and looking to go over the top is going to expose his defense as something less than great or even good.

Once more we have real examples of his defense working in action, you only have fantasy situations where you imagine a superior fighter will somehow break the code.

 

this fight is a joke.wlad should be fighting pulev wilder or fury not a bum who got lucky in his last fight.i would rather him fight david price than this guy tbh.wont last 4 rounds:roll: