Wladimir Klitschko vs. Alexander Povetkin RBR

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  1. freedom2013

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    I like how Povetkin didn't complain about the holding.

    Simply said Wlad was the better man. No excuses.
     
  2. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Rummy, what did you think of the fight, my man ?
     
  3. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Pov's a gentleman and very possibly, a future HW champion.


    I hope he made a good few $$$$ from this.

    He showed a lot of bottle.
     
  4. Rumsfeld

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    Povetkin did better than I anticipated. He was making Wladimir uncomfortable in there and gave a spirited performance. I thought we'd see more right hands from both fighters, but they seemed to neutralize that punch in each other. I especially thought Wlad would begin opening up with right hands earlier, and it never wound up happening. Something about Povetkin's rhythm/movement made Wladimir reluctant to throw what I personally thought would be the most telling punch in the fight. On the flip-side Wlad utilized his hook better than I expected, and he was throwing that quick short hook off the jab well when he used it - a technique he used with much greater frequency in years past, that I don't recall him using so often more recently.

    It was a very good but ugly win for the champion. Unfortunately, I don't think this performance is one that will make HBO eager to include him on future broadcasts.
     
  5. cuchulain

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    Fair comment.

    I think HBO (and it's US audience ) is more geared to a different style of combat.

    ( In some ways it's analagous to European football's lack of appeal in the ststes compared to US-style football.)


    I was impressed with Sasha in that he showed some balls by lasting the whole 12. I think Wlad could have probably put him away in 7 or 8, but he's a safety-first kinda guy, and it works for him.

    I wouldn't be surprised if Povetkin captures one or more titles when the Ks are both gone.
     
  6. kirk

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    I don't think that this can be down to taste in styles though Cuchulain. Not this time.

    I am a fan of Wlad, but honestly.... it was a very negative performance.

    If I was a neutral fan just tuning in I'd be asking wtf was that. Wlad would literally leap into clinches and hugs.

    Carlos Molina is probably one of my least favorite fighters due to his style, but Wlad was just as bad as any Molina fight.

    He got the W, maybe it was a case of 'win today, look good tomorrow' and for some reason Povetkin was making him more uncomfortable then most think, for some reason.

    But it was a very negative performance by almost universal standards, imo. I would think only the biggest and most bias Wlad fans would think this was a good performance by him.

    Idk.... just imo.
     
  7. des3995

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    Jeebus...... What an awful fight. Atrocious.

    Wlad's holding made it an impossible watch.

    The ref's performance was dismal. Between the throw downs and the holding and leaning...........

    Now don't get me wrong, Povetkin didn 't have any answers, and kept marching to Wlad's tune, but this kind of fight isnt good for the sport. Who wants to watch that?

    And, if you're Sasha, when Wlad is grabbing you and leaning down, do you drop a hammer or 3 on Wlad's tommyknockers? Why not?
     
  8. ludwig

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    I expected a 241 lb Wlad to use his legs and dominate at range. But Povetkin showed speed and was able to lunge in.

    Wlad shouldn't be allowed to hold and lean. But what other strategy is available to Wlad when Povetkin lunges in? Wlad has to be fast enough to sidestep and punch Povetkin. Maybe at 37 Wlad has lost some mobility.

    He looked alot better against Haye. Maybe he's been declining since and we haven't noticed because of his limited opposition since Thompson II.
     
  9. kirk

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    This is what I was thinking as I was watching the fight.
     
  10. SimplyTheBest

    SimplyTheBest Heavyweight Destroyer Full Member

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    I agree entirely. He's losing a step, and relying on clinching/leaning way too much.
     
  11. freedom2013

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    Yes. He looked as good as ever in the Wach fight, but I noticed in the Pianeta he was clinching/leaning more than he needed too and he looked slower, even though he won easily. And against the better opponent today in Povetkin, it was more noticable.

    Wlad is getting close to retirement.
     
  12. bipop

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    Povetkin should fight at cruiser.
     
  13. cuchulain

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    It was a very defensive performance against a potentially dangerous opponent. Wlad did what he had to do, and took no risks.

    I think any time you get a 119-104 score and four KDs against the number two, who had never been down, by most measures, that would be considered a good performance.

    It was not slick, nor even aesthetically pleasing, but Wlad's object ws the W and he got it.

    Always good to hear your take, Kirk.
     
  14. Rumsfeld

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    I actually believe you and kirk both make valid points that are applicable. In fact, my 'general overview' probably falls somewhere in between your opposing viewpoints.

    At the end of the day, Wlad did what he had to do and pitched a shutout, which was smart, effective, but not especially crowd-pleasing.

    For my part, I think I underestimated Povetkin a great deal. In that light, Wlad's efforts become more pronounced.

    I'm still surprised at how few right hands were thrown by both guys, though.

    :smoke
     
  15. TheNeonSalmon

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    IBF belt? No. Wlad won the Ring/lineal title a few years ago. Not 7. Joe Louis was THE CHAMP for 11 years not a belt holder. Those are facts.

    I give Wlad credit as being Lineal champ now and some dont even give him that for not fighting Vitali. I give him the lineal claim no doubt but he has not been THE CHAMP for 7 years.