Wladimir Klitschko VS Andy Ruiz Jr

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Colonel Sanders, Nov 30, 2019.


Who wins ?

Poll closed Jan 4, 2020.
  1. Wlady KO

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  2. Andy KO

    10.2%
  3. Draw

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  4. Wlady decision

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  5. Andy decision

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  1. blackfella96

    blackfella96 Member Full Member

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    Wlads outside even at that age is too strong for Ruiz. Wlad UD
     
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  2. BCS8

    BCS8 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    5:23 to be exact. Fury talks a lot of sense in this.
     
  3. red cobra

    red cobra Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Like Corrie Sanders, ...Ruiz has those fast hands that he's not afraid to let go.
     
  4. CroBox29

    CroBox29 Member Full Member

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    Prime Wladimir is better than Ruiz ever was and will be, Wladimir by KO...
     
  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Bit of a Gobshite Full Member

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    Lmao show me the rounds without a KD that Peter won
     
  6. ray fritz

    ray fritz Active Member Full Member

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    WLAD OVER ALL,10 years the champ 10 years ducked nada
     
  7. sauhund II

    sauhund II Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So let me get this straight.......

    The WK who barely got by the full time janitor jennings...........could not let his hands go against a featherfist who just flickered 4.8 jabs a round at him for 12.......and a even older version was starched by the green Bodybuilder.....

    I always knew that this board is populated by absolute muppets but this is cake.......

    WK had not won a fight in years when he faced AJ...gassed badly and flopped around like a fish out of water........but but but he knocked down the stiff Bodybuilder, guess what, Ruiz knocked the more seasoned AJ the F out and made him quit.

    The WK version who faced AJ was shot beyond shot.......Ruiz just would walk him down , putting WK on a pace he is not used too, he would never let his hands go afraid to get countered so no knock down and he will fold between 6 and 7 standing still due to bodyshots eating flush combos upstairs......

    Many , many fighters would have beaten that WK, no doubt, just the delusional Euro jock riders praise this as some magnificent win........if WK had ANY juice left he would have continued fighting but even a blind man can see that he was beyond well done, stick a fork in him.
     
  8. Colonel Sanders

    Colonel Sanders NSB defector Full Member

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    so...............
    anyone changed his mind ?
     
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  9. BCS8

    BCS8 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Whelp, after the Klitschko template was employed to great effect against Ruiz in the rematch, the guys picking Ruiz over Wlad are looking kind of silly right now :deal:
     
  10. Fergy

    Fergy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wlad gets a decision. Can't see it any other way tbh. After seeing him look so helpless against AJ, can see Wlad doing what he does best and gets the win. Ruiz would huff and puff but he isn't blowing Wlad down!
     
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  11. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    Wlad on points
     
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  12. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Not me. Two reasons why -
    1. Andy is dangerous in the clinch. He's slippery , knows how to get his hands free and is fast enough to get damage in before and after he gets clinched.
    2. Klitschko hasn't the back-foot game to consistently glide around the ring while pumping a jab like Joshua did. He'll rely on too much clinching rather than movement , that gives Ruiz the advantage.

    I base this argument on reality and not from a fantasy based perception. You can see down bellow that Klitschko held more in just two rounds against Mormeck than AJ did over 12 rounds.

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  13. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    He landed a heap of body shots. He would have landed head shots too like the first but Joshua was a lot more reactive this time.
     
  14. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Ruiz is beatable when you fight a controlled disciplined fight. Parker and Joshusa (although Ruiz was out of shape). did it. Pime Wlad was the expert of these kind of fights. I agree with Fury.
     
  15. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Fury doesn't like Joshua and only said that to wind up him up. He's doing it for years. Said Charles Martin was better than AJ years ago.
    If you believe him then you must believe him when he said Ruiz was no better than Chisora and he could beat him with one arm behind his back.
    Ruiz is clearly way better than Chisora and he would give Fury a much harder fight than Chisora did. He's not being serious.
    But since we're talking about Chisora , prime Wlad pulled out against Chisora just ONE day before they were meant to fight.
    Im not saying Chisora would have beaten Wlad , but he would have made him look bad , and Wlad didn't want to look bad against a 16-0 nobody at the time.

    Thats not just my opinion , but Manny Stewards as well.

    "When this fight was originally scheduled [for Dec. 11, before Klitschko injured an abdominal muscle in training], I said -- and I was probably the only one -- that I expected a tougher fight from Chisora than from any of the opponents we had fought in the last five years," Steward told ESPN.com on Tuesday. "I still feel the same way."

    "Not wanting to belittle anyone, but the [Ruslan] Chagaevs, the Lamon Brewsters, the Sam Peters -- all these veteran-type guys -- they're very predictable, no real burning ambition. To me, the confidence, the ambition, the burning desire of a fighter is a lot more dangerous than that of an experienced fighter. I've always felt that Chisora was a tough fight, and I'm really not that super-excited about it.

    "I personally would rather we had just fought David Haye."


    It was no secret at the time that Chisora no-fear attitude at the presser put worry into the Klitschko camp. Perhaps this is why Vitali fought him instead because he is better at clubbing come forward guys off the back foot.

    Wlad had no backfoot game , so you are wrong when you say he was an expert at producing that type of performance.
    WK would have looked bad mauling and groping Chisora to victory , because we've seen him look bad boxing the same way against other come forward guys with an aggressive style. Its just being consistent to note he would have a hard time with Ruiz and his fast powerful hands on the inside.
    The fleet footed Larry Holmes tpye mover you describe didn't exist.
     
    Last edited: Dec 11, 2019
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