Wladimir Klitschko vs Erik Morales

People love erick Morales but nobody seems to understand that it is all relative. Wlad will be remember as one of the greats at heavyweight... Morales will be remembered as a warrior at his weight devision but likely not an ATG, he had good fights and bad fights... and i guess you could leave the last part of his carreer out (PED usage) but ultimately Wlad accomplished more than Morales did.

Also its relative compared to where people live.

North America Morales takes the cake... however if you are talking about Eaurope then its defeinetly Klitschko.

 

he was knocked out twice by Pacquiao, and won one decision by two points on three cards, big ****ing deal! Is Rahman better than Wlad in your book because he once upon a time KTFO'd Lewis? (Note, KTFO'd, and not some BS decision) And Pacquiao's star has waned in case you haven't noticed. As for Barrera He won split decision and lost two rematches, so where is the great kudos?

 

its not about just who he beat... becasue he didn't beat anyone who equals that calliber (because there isn't really anyone who equals that caliber in heavyweight, Haye was the closest thing but there isn't anyone else). The difference comes in longetivity and dominance for Wlad, thats the only point i will make. over the last Decade Wlad has been one of the most dominenet boxers around (Aside from Mayweather, and maybe Paquio outside his recent loses i can't think of anyone else.)

 

alright maybe he is an ATG and resume wise Morales takes it but overall Wlad edges him... Like i said, it is all relative.

 

not really i am not klit nuthugger just a fan. everyone is entitiled to their opinion and i gurantee you the opinion of north american fans will be very different then of earopeans.

 

Morales by a landslide.

 

because dominating an awkward division can't be controled by the fighter who is dominating it.

Wlad has plenty of talent and even though he can be boring as **** no one comes close to his level, if he gets hit once people get excited (because it usually never happens). If Wlad loses a round people go ape****. Morales was in a lot of tough wars, some he edged... some he lost. In his prime morales was one of the top guys but you could never truelly say that he was dominant because even when he did Win vs Barrera and paquio... those were close fights. He competed at Par with the best of his era... but no one competes with Wlad (not anymore at least).

To end my point
Wlad will have a stronger influence in 10-20 years from now then Morales will even though Morales did have better resume wins, because Morales was one of the top guys in his era... while Wlad was the top guy of his era.

 

no that's not what i meant... i meant that he fights out of Europe so he gets more exposure there.

i respect your opinion and like i said, resume wise (and definelty entertainment wise) Morales takes it, however overall i dont believe he will (see my previous post for explanation).

 

Morales will always receive more love than Wlad because he was a risk taking fighter who often brawled and was in a lot more entertaining fights than Wlad. Morales was a great fighter and a boxing fans dream.

That being said, he was not even close to the same skill level as Wlad. Morales got hit a LOT, and his technique wasn't great. I'm not saying he didn't have technique, as he was easily able to outbox Pac (who himself has TERRIBLE technique). He was a blood and guts type of guy; a fighter, but not a boxer with as high a skill level as Wlad, Ward, Mayweather etc.

Let's wait until Wlad retires before we talk about his ATG rank. Something tells me a decade of dominance in the HW's will not be so easy to ignore once we see the division turn back into a belt swapping fiasco after Klitschko leaves.

 

you are beating the same point over and over... i already admitted that Morales's resume is greater than wlads.

Wlad doesn't have any signature wins... but he has some great wins over Byrd, Peter, Haye and who can forget the Infemous Ray Austin (JK).

anyways i've made my point.