Wladimir Klitschko vs. Evander Holyfield

The harsh truth of the camera eye.

 

well vlad did out box peter,,,,

I get your point, at times peter battered vlad around the ring but to say vlad didn't out box him is a bit harsh :bbb

 

Harold lederman said it was an outrage that Wlad wasn't DQ'd for excessive clinching and holding.

That's not out boxing somebody. Vitali out boxed Peter. Easily.

 

Did he say it was a "outrage" or did you just add that on?

Not trying to be offensive Dino, just trying to get the facts straight because you are making some good points :good Vlad did hold a lot :bbb

 

He sounded outraged. Same thing in'it?

Peter never gave any of the top fighters he fought any trouble. But he gave Wlad hell and Wlad had to win by all sort of cheat tactics.
Peter wasn't any good. There was a reason he struggled and its because he's overrated. What other reason is there.

Holyfield would be too versatile for Wlad .

 

Well I agree somewhat with your last statement about Holy. The only thing is Vlad gets away with so much holding could he possibly frustrate and contain Holy enough to win a UD? Vlad is pretty good at it. I wouldn't bet a lot on this fight either way.

 

Holyfield would over come holding. He's an adaptor and very dangerous in close.
Look what he did to Tyson and Bowe III.

 

it wouldn't surprise me, Holy was a ATG :good

 

BJ definitely took some punishment during his fight. He was hurt during the fight (he basically admitted it during the post-fight interview).

Chambers was small and fast. It's a moot point anyways; Eddie got knocked unconscious.

Holyfield has poor defense. He won't last with Wlad for a full 12.

He will try to get in, but be forced to stay on the outside all night.

 

The Holyfield of the Foreman fight would beat WK. He will stop him somewhere between 8-10 rounds. He handled Foremans jab with ease and at this point still possessed his lightning fast reflexes.. He will pop in and out with deadly accurate combinations until he eventually breaks thru and breaks WK. In his prime if you hit him he'd ALWAYS get you back, his hands are faster than WK and he will move under Wlads jab and hurt him to the body with his left hook which was maybe his most deadly punch. He will set a tone early, push a fast pace and sting Wlad with fast hard ripping combos, this will put doubt in WK's mind and he’ll eventually break.

Evander breaks him in round 9!!!

 

I'm fascinated by this physical superman/masterful expert technician Wladimir guy who has superhuman strength, an impenetrable jab, and lightening quickness. Where can I see some of his fights?

 

I'd pick Holyfield in this he was no Duran but he did have a good inside game, if Wlad decided to hold him he'd get beat on the body. Holyfield also had incredible strength even wall getting beat up he was able to push Bowe back in the clinch all night, he'd do the same to Wlad, get him to the ropes, and unleash hellacious combos. Holyfield's jab was a cobra too, he was easy to jab but he always jabbed back!!! Wlad in order to make it the distance, much less win would be in for a war like he's never experience, he'd wilt under the pressure before the final bell sounded.

 

1) Wlad can take punches to the body. Took well over 100 against Jennings.

2) How is Holy going to back Wlad up against the ropes? Wlad is much stronger than EH.

3) Wlad's jab is much better than Vanders.

4) Holy doesn't have good defense, is able to be outboxed, and was almost stopped by Bert Cooper (5'11, 215 pounds). Wlad would hurt Evander and probably TKO him.

 

1 Holyfield is a better body puncher, you would know if you watched boxing

2 Holyfield is strong as a bull, you would know if you watched boxing

3 Wlad's jab must not be that good, if it was he wouldn't have to hold so much, you would know if you watched boxing

4 Holyfield was no where near being stopped against Cooper it was a good punch and he came storming back right after literally seconds after, you would know if you watched boxing

You obviously don't watch boxing, and you obviously don't know sh!t about boxing!

 

Damn, if I were a betting man I could make money off this. Lots of guys think that Holyfield would KO Wladimir. Lots of guys are wrong.