Wladimir Klitschko vs. Evander Holyfield

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Wouldn't get away with holding in the states?! tell that to mayweather

 

Did you know Klitschko landed less jabs on Sam Peter than Bowe landed on Holyfield. This means Klitschko would only be able to land a minuscule fraction of jabs on Holyfield compared to what Bowe was able to land as Vander was obviously a lot harder to hit than plodding no head movement Peters.

This alarming stat suggests Wlad has to fight with Vander in the wheelhouse for the majority of the rounds- without any inside game , durability , stamina and toughness.
I can envision a mentally and physically shattered Wlad holding on in desperation before forcing the ref to call halt to the action around the 6.5 mark of the contest.

I feel Lewis had his hands full with a faded Holyfield but his inside game notably the uppercut is what assisted him to victory.

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That Klitschko is not Bowe, Peter is not Holyfield and Dino DKSAB

Haunt Dino's every waking moment and cause mental instability? Yes.

Beat Byrd who beat Holyfield? Yes.

I'll bet you can Dino is so entranced with his vision he had several tries at coming up with a more destructive adjective than 'shattered' but had to settle for that given limited lexical resources.

I know what certain haters hold onto in desperation

 

Holyfield also faced a better jabber than Wlad when he fought an early 90's Foreman. That jab was like a tree crashing through a window.

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Well, Cooper did not outbox Holyfied. If you are going to beat Holyfield, you gonna have to show toughness and the chin to take some punches. Wlad does not have those ingredients.

Look at how Holyfield did against Bowe II and Lewis (when he was past prime)).

Yet Wlad does not have the uppercut, chin or Inside game than either Bowe or Lewis.

 

The 800 pound gorilla in the room when talking about this fight is Wlad's china chin and his inability to get into a fight and win. Sooner or later Evander will get inside and nail him and Wlad starts wobbling , then after he's knocked down twice the ref stops it in the 10th round

 

Without Wlads customized canvas, I think Holyfield stops him late

 

The best Holyfield would probably beat the best Wlad imo, possibly by late stoppage or maybe points. If it goes to points, it might be a 8-4 in rounds type of decision for Holyfield. It's not an easy fight though, Wlad's the bigger man and the size and power of Wladimir gives him a chance with anyone. I just think Holy in his prime will impose his style more on Wlad and he had a better chin and stamina than WK.

Unless Wlad had more power than Lennox Lewis, I don't believe he would knock out or stop the best Evander. Who hit harder, Wladmir or Lennox? If its Wlad, it's possible he might get Evander out of there. I tend to think Wlad and Lennox hit something equally similar in power though. Evander went 24 rounds against LL so he is very durable.

Lewis deserved the decision both times against Holyfield I think and Lewis had a better inside game and employed uppercuts and hooks up close more than Wlad so looked more comfortable in a brawl. Lewis had better stamina than Wlad in a hard fight imo and he was a little sturdier. Lewis just looked better as a natural fighter than Wlad. Against Evander that made the difference.

 

Well let's keep it on the level. The guys who knocked Wlad out hit MUCH harder than Holyfield did. As his career progressed Wlad became very hard to catch cleanly.

Bowe who was open defensively hardly paid for it vs Holyfield, whom he pounded . Wlad's jab and footwork is even better than Bowe's and he's too strong and heavy in the clinches.

Holy should be 1-4 vs. Bowe and Lewis. He's not out boxing Wlad. A late mid to late round TKO for Holy is certainly possible but so is a KO /TKO for Wlad in rounds 1-12. If a guy like Bert Cooper could hurt Holy, what if Wlad lands his right or hook flush? IMO Wlad hits harder than Bowe, and we saw what Bowe did to him. Pound him on all four corners of the ring in the first and knock him out in the final fight.

 

Not even Foreman would agree with that one.

 

Hard one. Depends on the refs. The refs from the Povetkin fight and Holyfield gets manhandled but actual clean refs and I'd Favor Holyfield by late KO

 

This is most stupid, reductionist argument I have ever seen made on this board and you grasp to it like a life preserver... As pisspoor as this argumentative tact is, your adherence to it suggests the interlocutor is worse

Christ Almighty...

 

Top tier guys tried to force him into a firefight for a straight decade and he barely lost a round.

Vander was up and down like a yo-yo in terms of his performances

 

An early version, wild swinging Wlad would be a great match with Holyfield. Holyfield could catch him and hurt him on counters and even get a KO.

But, near the end of his reign - Wlad was just to scientific and skilled at keeping the distance. Holyfiled begins to lose steadily until it becomes a route by the late rounds. Holyfield is game even with a prime Wald, but Wlad is too intelligent and would see the traps Evander is trying to set for him. He will not play to Holyfield's strengths.

Wlad forces Holyfield to fight his fight. So, I would take Wlad for the solid UD.