Wladimir Klitschko vs Joe Frazier -- you know this is gonna be divided.

Of course that left hook was so effective against Foreman wasn't it? You know the Foreman who punched like a guy pushing his arm through treacle compared to Klitchko.

Are you even aware that Joe would get offended if a guy threw a punch at him and missed? Take 6 to land 1 was Joe's idea of fighting, highly entertaining, and possibly the reason Frazier is so universally admired, but suicide against a guy with the power of anyone Foremans size, or bigger.

 

Foreman missed with far more than he landed, but every good right uppercut that got through dropped Joe. There is nothing Frazier could do to stop the bigger, harder hitting Vlad from doing the same. Even Klitchko's jab would hurt Joe.

 

I have to agree that Foreman just pushed Frazier back by the shoulders returning him to his,[ George's], optimum punching range .Wlad doesn' t do that, when you close with him he lays on you and hugs you because he has no idea how to fight in close and is terrified of being hit. I still don't see Frazier overcoming the size and power disparity, but using the Foreman fights as a template is misleading.

 

He was flat out ko'ed against the only modern legitimate puncher he faced....so I guess WK is not a legitimate puncher,lol, he has O N E win against his top opposition and in the other F O U R against same opposition he was beaten from pillar to post......Frazier would never get smoking , he would get smoked. In order to trouble WK you need a great jab and a way above average chin to walk thru plenty of fire....Frazier aint out jabbing WK and Frazier 's chin is mediocre at best,lol, the proof is in the pudding.

BTW, Mike Tyson KO1 Joe Frazier.

 

Wlad ain't Foreman. Different type fighters. One does everything not to engage while the other has ATG attributes of killer instinct and will to win going all out to over power his opponents. Wlad may win but you can't use Foreman as an example as to why.

Fraziers losses.....all of them.....occurred after his prime years. His first bout with Ali was his last as a prime hwt fighter.

 

I agree with these comments. :good

 

Foreman yes. Big question mark vs Ali since Joe handled him so well in fight one. The Frazier of fights 2 and 3 were not the same Frazier.

 

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Yeah and pigs fly.......no three year Clay/Ali exile Ali would be active and handle Frazier comprehensively in the FOTC.....Frazier would be 0-5 , no Ali exile, no Frazier /Foreman with a belt.

 

Don't agree with that. By the 68-70 time period Ali could be ripe for the taking. Joe had the style to give Ali a huge problem. Ali was a sucker for the hook and Joe had a great one.

 

He gave Ali such huge trouble in loosing in his next two loosing tries and got stopped in one of them.........

 

LOL.

Frazier got beaten by guys who are in the top 5 all time @ HW. Meanwhile, Wlad gets sonned by Purrity, Sanders and Brewster.

Really, there is no comparison in class here. Joe is well above Klitschko in that regard. Exactly WHO has Klitschko ever beaten?

 

Stop smoking the Crack.

Prime Tyson could possibly be considered a favorite in a fight with Prime Frazier - but no way does Mike end things in the first round.

 

Klitchko is not laying on or hugging someone as small and light as Frazier. He would shove him around like a rag doll, and do exactly as Foreman did and tee him up in his optimum range. I recently rewatched Frazier / Bugner on TV, and it was alarming to see how small Frazier actually was compared to Bugner, never mind VK.

 

Wlad laid on all the guys smaller than himself.

Take a look at the Mormeck fight,Mormeck 5'11" 216lbs was around Frazier's size.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmot0liRHy4


I'm not saying Frazier beats him because I don't think he does, but Wlad and Foreman are nothing alike.
Foreman looked to blast you out.Wlad is a chipper, he chips away until you are groggy before committing himself to going for the Ko
.Frazier would have extreme difficulty in landing his hook on Wlad's chin with any regularity,and because of the size difference I think his body attack would be smothered a lot of the time.
Joe's options in this fight are severely limited, he really wasn't a one punch ko banger, he relied on attrition but if you aren't landing big stuff consistently you aren't able to wear your opponent down enough to administer the finish . Frazier lumped up and Wlad has an excellent jab.When you look at what each man brings to the table it just gets worse for Joe.