Wladimir Klitschko .Vs. Max Baer

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by la-califa, Jul 30, 2008.


  1. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Battle of the big men! Klitschko has the better boxing ability, but could he effectivly keep away from the sledgehammer blows of Baer? Tough Call. 15 Rounds.
     
  2. headers14

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    Klitschko's stamina issue will be a big issue in a 15 rounder
     
  3. teeto

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    Wlad will have to box so well here, because Baer at his best could simply batter a man, or take them out with that huge right. I personally think Baer will get him and i dont think Baer has to land that many to finiish this.

    That's not Classic forum bias by the way! Just how i see it.
     
  4. mr. magoo

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    Although Max Baer certainly had the power and stamina to beat Wlad, I don't think the skill levels were sufficient. I could easily see Wlad playing it safe without taking any chances and keeping Baer on the end of his jab all night.

    Wlad by decision in a disappointing fight.
     
  5. SuzieQ49

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    Horrible matchup for wlad. A granite chinned ATG puncher with reletless stamina and agression, wlad wont be able to lacadasically methodically paw his way to a UD in this one vs a peak baer. baer will dent wlads weak chin and force wlad into another one of his panic attacks somewhere during the fight. baer mid round TKO.
     
  6. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    Wladimir has a full arsenal of punches, he is not weak with any of him. He puts together nice combinations, and superior to many in this regard. He is normally vulnerable to fast punches down the middle. This is why I picked him to salvage his career against Peter.

    After watching Peter have some success in finding Wlad with his overhand right, I would be nervous just picking against Baer without giving him a chance.

    Still, I think Wlad has too much offensively for Baer to get through.

    Wlad by however hard Baer fights. I could see it going the way magoo picked it, or I could see Baer getting stopped if he presses hard.
     
  7. teeto

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    Good to see we agree on this one Suzie. Also, i know its a bit late and maye not the place, but i havent spoke to you about the big one at the weekend yet. Was great, we both had Cotto to win aswell i believe!!
     
  8. Loewe

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    Wlad´s chin is underestimated - he actually was never koed, two of his tko losses also were more due to his stamina issue than due to his chin. When you look at his fights of the last 2-3 years you also see that he doesn´t have a stamina issue anymore and now knows how to pace himself. He also isn´t fighting anymore like he did against Purrity, Sanders and Brewster I but now has a safety first approuch which makes him more boring but also a lot harder to beat.
    While i have very much respect for Baer, i think he´s just not good enough to overome Wlad´s physical and technical advantages. Wlad would Jab, throw an occasional right hand or left hook and starts to grab when it gets dangerous. Very boring fight and a solid UD of 10-5 for Wlad.
     
  9. Bad_Intentions

    Bad_Intentions Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Klitschko has the more tactics/combinations, but his glass chin and terrible stamina is questionable.

    Baer has the power (especially on the right hand), and the chin to eat wlad's punches.

    I see klitschko jabbing and using his combinations on max baer in the early rounds but unfortunately it's not hard enough to hurt the granite chinned max ber, in the later rounds baer goes in for the kill, TKO 15.
     
  10. mr. magoo

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    I could possibly see this scenario unfolding in the unlikely event that Wlad tried to get brave and trade with Baer. But ever since the Brewster loss four years ago, Wlad has not taken any chances trading with big punchers. Frankly, I can't see Baer as having the skills, the speed or the reach to penetrate Klitschko's jab. The stamina issue may prove to be a problem, but Wlad has shown us that he can go the distance quite a bit lately. Besides, I don't see this match as being terribly fast paced to where either man would get tired out much anyway.
     
  11. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Aren't both fighter's pretty much about the same size? Baer could possibly bull rush his way on the inside to do some damage. In his prime Baer had a deadly reputation.
     
  12. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I think you may be confusing Max Baer for his brother Buddy, in which case, yes. Buddy and Wlad were very close to the same size. As for Max, he had about the same reach as Wlad at 81 inches, but the actual size was drastically different.

    Max in his prime was 6'2"1/2, and weighed around 210 Lbs.

    Wlad is 6'6"1/2, and weighs 240 Lbs. Plus seems to posses quite a bit more muscle mass than Baer.
     
  13. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes, you are correct. I was going by how much larger Bear was against the Heavyweights of the time, Which looks simular to the way Klitschko appears larger than the Heavies of today.
     
  14. Bummy Davis

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    Baer has a punchers chance vs anyone...But Vlad has the better overall arsenal
     
  15. Mendoza

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    Max Baer could not spell jab if you spotted him the " J " and the " A ". Max was out boxed by far lesser guys than Wald, and outside of maybe 2-3 key fights the other guy wanted it more. Baer was lazy in the ring

    Best guess is Wlad via easy decision, or possible TKO. Baer of course has an outside shot of landing the bomb, but Wlad's defense and clinching skills combined with his ring intelligence diminish Baer's punchers chance.