Wladimir Klitschko Vs Razor Ruddock

when wlad is serially destoryed by guys who werent bums but middlers, its becos he was badly performing?

 

I’ll take the guy that ruled the division for over a decade facing all comers and barely losing a round. The other guy is more known for fights he lost anyway.

 

Vlad should win if he boxes in his normal safety first manner .possibly late stoppage but there is always the possibility of Razor shattering that China chin.

 

I would favour Wlad, but it's alot closer than most people think. Ruddock in his prime was better than most of Wlad's later title defences. Like Bowe after Holyfield, Ruddock was ruined in those fights with Tyson. He sustained serious injuries in that war. The Ruddock that KOed Bronecrusher, was more than capable of doing what Brewster, and Sanders did.

 

Except the Brewster/Sanders Wlad wasn't prime. We have a decade where he was more or less prime to use as a basis for comparison, a decade where he was almost untouchable, a decade where he displayed the greatest and longest dominance the division has ever witnessed, why don't use do that to compare?

 

Wlad via class

 

because it was a decade in which his best opponent was Poovetkin and his average opponent was an unskilled noone like Wach.

anyone could dominate over a decade vs them, because they would match a string of opponents that contenders face on the way up towards becoming top five. That anyone would include Razor Ruddock if Ruddock had wlads longevity.


so its no proof, though i give him credit for beating pov and haye like anyone would, two pretty good opponents.

 

18 title defenses speaks for itself double what Lewis was able to achieve. A true ATG Wlad

 

I Have no doubt that Wlad wouldn't have had 18 Defences during the 90s and Lewis could've have done it in the 2000s and 2010s

 

I’m not so sure 18 defenses takes a lot of focus and dedication something Lewis sometimes lacked. It’s not always about the quality of opponent. Lewis got picked off by McCall and Rahman, those guys weren’t much better if at all as some of the guys Wlad defended against. The 90s is the better decade though I wouldn’t argue that

 

I agree that Lewis probably would drop a few loses, but I'd argue at his best he'd beat everyone Wlad faced. Also (not as a dig) I think it's a poor argument to use the so and so are better than Rahman and McCall. Lewis himself beat at least half a dozen fighters better than them

 

A washed up Mike Dokes as your best victim proves very little.

Ten years of dominance with names like Chambers, Peter, Chagaev, Thompson, Haye, Pulev and the aforementioned Povetkin shows me a lot.

 

Lol 18 title defenses and none of the guys he beat doing his reign were considered all-time greats. So Wlad was lucky enough to fight in a watered down era. I believe Deontay Wilder has what 9 title defenses? So I guess that means he is better than guys like Lennox Lewis, George Foreman and Mike Tyson right?

 

The Ruddock who fought Tyson would probably lose a decision.