Wladimir Klitschko Vs Razor Ruddock

What all time great heavyweights did Jack Johnson, Jack Dempsey, Rocky Marciano and Sonny Liston beat?

 

it shows me a lot too, that you rate near 40 year thompson, an awful pulev and terrible chambers and middling but acceptable peter. I dont rate any other fighters like that on any other champs resume, so why shuld Wlad get not only a free pass for it, but a rating in line with ATGs for it.?

thats all it shows me, but as I have made clear, there are a small sclutch of fairly good defences in that time.

 

theres barely any world class fighters on wlads defences list, let alone talking about even elite or atg. I count 4 maximum in that "reign". Its hardly a 10 year reign, its 10 year period of pulling wool over some peoples eyes. Obviously successfully in some cases.

His acceptable defences add up to more like a 3 year reign (even if you figure in some staybusy "crap" defences that some champs make), with another fighter helping him out.

Noones saying wlads bad, but hes not ever briefly even elite, nevermind comparing him to the guys the OP mentioned.

 

Weren't you warned you would face a lifetime ban, Herol, if you ever attempted to use that word again ?

Yo be playing with fire here, lad.

Take heed !!!

The forum needs you !

 

no.

moving on..

 

Here are a few names for you... Sick Billy Miske, Bill Brennan, George Carpentier, Tommy Gibbons (as heavyweight), Luis Firpo...

Tell me more about these crap defenses, wise man.

 

Hold up now everyone I think ruddock atleast got a chance here, that shovel hook like thing he throws is awkward and powerful and might catch the robotic wlad off guard and put him down, ruddock was a better fighter than Ross purity atleast, but generally I think wlad was a good league better skilled and would end up catching ruddock with a 1 2 knock out blow, but I wouldn't say it's really that one sided, razor ruddock was a better fighter than many of the people wlad faced

 

I'm pretty sure the answer is yes.

You were laughed off the forum when you claimed that BHop was NOT elite when he held the linear LHW title and that Big George was NOT elite when he held the lineal HW title.

It's all still there somewhere in the archives.

Try not to get booted again, lad.

You bring no end of mirth and merriment to the forum, a comedic genius !

 

you can be sure of what you want, but still wrong. not good stance for you to think you are right when you are blats wrong but maybe its what you are best at, so dont let me take it away from you, my good pal.

 

i'm not claiming Demps was a particularly good ATG either. Hes bottom rung these days.

So you tell yourself that, not me.

 

Wlad should win probably stoppage. He would have to get really careless to lose to Ruddock.

 

I like Ruddock more than most around here, and I even picked him in a recent H2H, but Wlad finishes him within the distance, barring the ever-present puncher's chance, which Ruddock would certainly have.

 

You dont think Lewis would walk through guys like shot 37 year old rahman if he was able to poleaxe prime rahman?

 

nevermind ATG, not one was elite, few were world class boxers.

 

There were no "elites" in Wlad's era other than Vitali because simply, nobody was allowed to be. It's the definition of ruling with an iron fist.