Wladimir Klitschko vs Riddick Bowe, 12 rounds.

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  1. tasteit

    tasteit Guest

    I agree with you regarding the stronger issue. Bowe might very well be stronger than Wlad and Lewis.

    That being said, Lewis was not prime at 235.

    Here are Lennox's best performances.
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    Holyfield I (245)
    Andrew Golota(244)
    Tommy Morrison (242)
    Shannon Briggs (243)
    Grant (247)
    Tua (249)

    It is obvious Lewis performed best around 242-249ish. 250+ and it shows a clear lack of training or dedication.. and lower than 240 he was not as impressive (from an overall stand point)

    In terms of pure speed and agility of course both Lewis and Wlad looked amazing at 230ish... but in terms of overall effectiveness they are both much better at 240+
     
  2. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I spoke with and interviewed probably a dozen guys who sparred with or fought against Bowe. None, to my memory, even talked about his strength. They talked about his length, his combo's, his jab and his heart.

    Similarly, I have read interviews with opponents of Wlad and spoken to a few opponents and sparring partners. They all commented on his strength. Everyone of them.

    To my perspective, and purely based on anecdotal evidence, it seems Wlad's strength is one of the very major components of his long success and is remarkable even among elite heavies.
     
  3. Mendoza

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    While Bowe had heart, his chin was iffy in the amateurs. Indeed he was down 1-2 times in the Olympics, before being blasted by Lewis. Bowe was never good at defense and ate right hands.


    His manager did not put Bowe in there with big punchers. Bowe's manager Rock Newman backed out of a fight with Tommy Morrison, who was at an all time marketing high after defeating George Foreman. We all know that Bowe ducked Lewis too.


    Golota who was just a solid puncher hurt Bowe with legal punches. Wlad would crush him. Sure Bowe could win too, but with his defense, and Wlads skills / laser focus, I doubt it.
     
  4. salty trunks

    salty trunks Well-Known Member Full Member

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    First off Bowe was half the size in the amatuers. Secondly he wasnt blasted out by Lewis, in fact he was never off his feet and the stoppage was controversial in my opinion. The fight is on Youtube feel free to watch it.
    Ive never seen a fighter so criticised for what happened in the amatuers. Jorge Gonzalez beat Bowe, Henry Tillman beat Mike Tyson twice. Fighters change as pros. They get bigger stronger and improve their game. Bowe's style was more customed to the pro game and while he developed ten fold as pro under Futch, Lewis remained very sloppy and amatuerish under Correa and that kind of stuff that worked in the amatuers cost him dearly in the pros. Had Bowe faced Lewis after Holyfield he would have put Lewis in the cheap seats before Mcall exposed him.
     
  5. heavy_hands

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    lennox lewis was in his PHYSICAL PRIME in his 20s, and he weighed less than 240 pounds in his 20s. against ruddock,bruno.. lewis was slow like hell at 245 pounds
     
  6. heavy_hands

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    and i forgot a thing, WLAD WAS IN HIS PHYSICAL PRIME AT 245, NOT LEWIS!!! WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO IS NATURALLY BIGGER THAN LEWIS, he never looked a ponderous guy at 245, wlad looked athletic at 245 like lewis at 235
     
  7. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think Bowe can stand up to Klitchko's power better than Klitchko can stand up to Bowe's
     
  8. mr. magoo

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    Regardless of whatever heresay that comes out of second hand gym conversations, Bowe controlled Evander Holyfield in the clinches and walked through Luis Gonzalez like he wasn't even there.. Point being, I think Riddick was a pretty strong guy.
     
  9. Azzer85

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    Bowe ****s him up.

    The guy with limitless heart vs the guy who has panic attacks?

    Bowe gets him sooner or later
     
  10. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    I'll ask you again fool. ..What hard fought competitive battle has Wlad ever come out on top?...You really dont know **** about your idiol.
     
  11. slender4

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    Yup, you're exactly right, ESB'ers don't know **** about boxing...

    -Jose Luis Gonzalez
     
  12. Mendoza

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  13. Malcolm

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    I'd think Wlad would have to blast him early and either coast to a decision (risky) or get him out of there in the middle to late rounds. Bowe was so good on the inside I just can't see Wlad tying him up everytime for 12 rounds. I'm sure Wlad is capable of stopping just about anyone. I'd think Wlad would possibly even have to commit to stopping him and not pace himself to last the 12. Bowe had such heart that I can't see him giving up trying to get inside. In that 2nd Golota fight he took such punishment and just kept coming, arguably pressuring Golota into panicking and getting himself DQ'd. I just don't see this fight going 12 but of course I'm no expert...
     
  14. dinovelvet

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    Walds sparring partners are a bunch of weaklings who are told not to hurt him. You can see the creampuffs for yourself on his youtube channell.

    Dillian Whyte was fired from camp because he was to strong for Wlad and gave him more than he could handle. This is a fact.

    Ive seen every Wlad fight post 2000 and and i assure you the most basic of fighters caused him major trouble while others flat out knocked him out. When the heat is on him its over and he was very lucky to be matched against C levelers his whole carrer because he never proved hin his life he could beat a relentless slugger, swarmer the size of Bowe.
     
  15. NoNeck

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    Wlad won't lose to a man with no defense.