Wladimir Klitschko vs Riddick Bowe

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  1. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Teanna Kai in the rearview mirror?
     
  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    You're biased because you claim every bad part of Wlad's career is in his prime yet every bad part of Bowe's is outside his prime.

    I said most comparable, name a Wlad opponent more comparable than Brewster.

    My hero was Frank Bruno, not sure what he has to do with this. No matter how much of a joke you think Bruno was you'll never be able to take the McCall fight away from it.

    Wlad could not take Bowe's punches. Don't be daft.

    Sanders is a counter punching southpaw, no comparison whatsoever.

    Bowe might stop him in 3 rounds, depends if he can take Wlad's punches.
     
  3. BCS8

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    Wlad too technical and hard hitting for Bowe. If Golota had Bowe on chicken legs and crawling around on the mat for half the fights with him, what would the much harder hitting Klitschko not do to him? Wlad outclasses Golota in almost every department.

    The only reason Bowe fought a guy like Holyfield is because he had like 30lb on him. Even Evander said that Bowe wanted to fight him because he thought that he could use his size for an easy win. We all saw Bowe brown his pants when faced with a similar-sized world class heavyweight in Lewis.

    The only way Bowe wins this is if Wlad throws the kitchen sink at him and despite everything Bowe is still around late in the fight and Wlad gasses. That's conceivable. Other than that, Bowe's roadkill.
     
  4. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bowe destroys Wlad at his best.
     
  5. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    That doesn't answer the question. A lol@ one 'good win' . Boew has a GREAT win. Wlad has NONE.
     
  6. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Stopped reading right there. Golotoa was an inside fighter and applied pressure. Wlad was neither. Thats how Golota done damage to Bowe. Slip n counter techniques , rolling with shots , combos from different angles.. You name it , Golota did it.. And he STILL lost TWICE:bash:

    ydksa the styles that make fights.
     
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  7. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Tbf the one time Bowe did lose was when Holy stuck to the outside and beat him with straight punches and superior footwork, avoiding inside exchanges.
     
  8. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Valid point.. but ... Holy still had to get inside to land. He got in with speed of foot and lateral movement behind a piston like trip hammer jab. His counter shotting played a huge part inside the wheel house. As did throwing 3-4 left/right hook combinations while up his his chest.
    Can you envision Wlad performing like that? I ain't ever seen it. Wlad hasn't the work rate or courage to give Bowe any trouble. He spends the majority of every round up close in a clinch where he won't throw a single punch. Bowe would think Christmas came early fighting a guy like that:xmas:


    Plus that fight was extremely close. It took an extraordinary circumstance to tip the fight in Holys favour.
     
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  9. lufcrazy

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    I hate clinching, it puts me off the sport in the HW division.

    That being said Wlad would certainly beat Bowe to the punch from range, that's not really debatable imo. If Wlad is strong enough in the clinch he might be able to neutralise Bowe, if he can then he wins. If he can't then he loses.

    The thing that concerns me about Bowe is his openness and I think of the flush shots he's gonna ship on his way inside. That puts a time limit on the fight imo maybe 9 rounds. So Bowe has that amount of time to get inside or land a hail Mary from range.

    As much I hate clinching, if he has a lenient ref it makes him extremely difficult to beat. No one has got inside for a decade and he only finally lost to someone quicker and more rangy than he.
     
  10. ticar

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    True, golota was a more complete, better boxer than wlad and lost both times against a past prime bowe.
    Lol at wlad having a chance beating a prime bowe.
    I favor bowe from golota fights to stop wlad.

    And what's with this nonsense bowe having no defense?
    Bowe showed more defense versatility in first fight with holyfield than wlad in all of his fights.
     
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  11. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Nah , not seeing that at all. Wlad don't engage in shoot outs. Everything has to be perfect for him to release the right hand. Thats why he failed horrible vs Fury. The opportunity never came for him and Fury won easily.
    Bowe easily had a better and longer right hand. It was better because Bowe puts momentum behind it while Wlad has to be set to punch. He can't box n move. At all. Louis Gonzalez was out of range and still got his head snapped off his shoulders.
    Wlad don't move his head or upper body so i have little doubt Bowe beats him in an exchange of right hand punches all night.
    And it only takes one for Wlad to crumble and mentally shatter.
     
  12. lufcrazy

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    Watch his head and upper body movement against Haye,that's the one facet of his performance that impressed me that night.

    No one has a longer right hand then Wlad, it's weakness is it leaves him open for someone to duck under it, which is where the clinch comes in.

    Bowe does have momentum behind his punches but if he's running into a clinch it stimies his work to the point where he'll be losing rounds left right and centre.

    Bowe has no chance of our jabbing him. His only chance of victory is on the inside which is why the leniency of the ref is critical to how it goes.
     
  13. lufcrazy

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    Watch his head and upper body movement against Haye,that's the one facet of his performance that impressed me that night.

    No one has a longer right hand then Wlad, it's weakness is it leaves him open for someone to duck under it, which is where the clinch comes in.

    Bowe does have momentum behind his punches but if he's running into a clinch it stimies his work to the point where he'll be losing rounds left right and centre.

    Bowe has no chance of our jabbing him. His only chance of victory is on the inside which is why the leniency of the ref is critical to how it goes.
     
  14. BCS8

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    Golota took Bowe's jab away and made him look silly. He jabbed Bowe's face off. He landed some thunderous punches FROM THE OUTSIDE that dropped Bowe like yesterday's news, which he is.

    Not only did Golota work Bowe over from the outside, he also roughed him up in the trenches. I haven't seen a shellacking like that in a while. Golota was able to slip Bowe's punches and land his own because often Bowe was flailing about like a kid in the midst of a nerd rage attack.

    Wlad has an ATG jab, concussive straight shots and destructive hooks. He's far lighter on his feet than either Bowe or Golota and a far more complete boxer. There's a reason why Klitschko dominated a decade and why Bowe is best remembered for running from Lewis and offering to say anything on twitter for 20 bucks.
     
  15. mr. magoo

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    A very good match up and one for which the result is uncertain. Riddick Bowe was a man who seemed to posses the full package. He had Olympic pedigree. He had one of the sport's greatest trainers in Eddie Futch. He was 6'5", 230 lbs in his prime with a solid chin, big punch, and sound skills for fighting on the inside. And unlike many of Wlad's opponents he peaked in his mid 20's. On the surface he looks like a very formidable opponent for Klitschko and most likely would have been. For all these great attributes Bowe did have a flaw however. His defense was poor for a world class fighter and his tendency to get pegged with a sharp strait jab was apparent. Wlad certainly had the sort of height, reach and physicality to compliment his punches against Bowe who was accustomed to being the more physical man in most of his actual fights. He also knew how to tie up a man and neutralize an attack better than almost any heavyweight I can think which could certainly negate Bowe's inside game. There isn't a clear winner here for me. Wlad outpointing Riddick to a decision is a very real possibility but depending on how effective Bowe manages to be on the inside could also result in a stoppage or knockout win for Big Daddy.