Wladimir Klitschko vs. Rocky Marciano

Peter? A total bum, hypejob who almost knocked him the **** out. Haye? Who Wlad struggled to land a punch on and was too afriad to engage and almost paid the price by getting ko'd in the 12th..........................Tyson's best wins are against great fighters who he destroyed in less time it takes Wlad to throw a combination.

 

Haye did nothing at Heavy. Nothing.

Spinks ,Holmes and Tucker are miles ahead in skill than anybody Wlad has faced.

The relic Tyson who hadn't any interest in boxing anymore did better against Lennox who was in the best shape of his life than Vitali did who fought a terrible version of Lennox. On top of that Vitali put in the fight of his life and was in his prime. Laughable.

 

Tyson arguably did better than Vitali in the first round.
Rest of the fight I would have to edge to Vitali except for the last 2 rounds (7 and 8). (Vitali did better in rounds 2,3,4,5,6 than Tyson did in his Lewis fight)

Tyson did show more durability to last against Lewis.

I guess you're right then.

Tyson only did 3 rounds better than Vitali (1, 7 and 8 as Vitali didn't reach the 7th round) but Tyson showed more durability and fought a better version.

 

Tyson would of ko'd Lewis even around 95-96. Lewis would not of survived the uppercut that downed Douglas. Lewis avoided Tyson till he was a walking corpse.
Peter wouldn't of got anywhere near Spinks.
Washed up Tucker was out boxing Lewis, in is prine he wouldn't of lost a round to Thompson.

 

wow 117 pages! This thread is immortal like Highlander!

 

Really? Out boxing him for some 30 second span you keep replaying in your mind?

That fight was a drubbing.

 

Lets face is Marciano gets destroyed hes a little roley poley dumplin, not even a heavyweight, he get's absolutely demolished.

 

He made Lewis look like an amateur at times 7 years after his loss to Tyson while being way past it and a drug addict. Lewis put him down put couldn't keep him down...Its only logic an 80s Tucker outpoints him and wipes the floor with both brothers.

 

As you must know, Tucker was 6-5, long, and had one loss coming into that fight. He was never an easy night for anyone. AND no one had ever decked him, not McCall, not Tyson, not Buster Douglas. Lewis pulled the trick twice and won the bout going away.

And you are trying to deride this performance?

Again, you are in a crowd of one with this opinion.

 

This post cannot be for real ...

David Haye with all time great reflexes ? A prime Tyson would have crushed Haye as fast as he did Alex Steward or Bruce Sheldon .. I've hardly read this thread as it is absurd but the small posts I read are off the charts ..

 

1. You say he didn't need his brother help, Who rematched Sanders? That concludes what I said correct and you wrong. He also had the brother concept,his brother being a champion while he was not which helped his name out.

2. No. If statistics were that easier everyone would be rich gamblers. What you fail to comprehend is the weighting you must put on each factor(KO%). KOing a bum would get a factor of "0" becaue overall it contributes nothing to the class of the fighter they faced.Therefore the true KO% percentage of each fighter is very very low.

3. Who rematched Sanders? That alone proves you're wrong.The referee allows for the constant holding and leaning on smaller fighters only because he's being paid by the fighter whos doing it thats ethically and morally wrong but it's cheating.

4.You can't prove he's been in the ring with better fighters.
What we can prove is that Rockys fighter are held much much higher then Wladimirs. So the conclusion is that Rocky has fought the better fighters.

5. Rocky KO'd a 254 giant in 1 or 2rounds. That's fact. Only time Wladdy was going to face a pressure fighter was in Chisora, he pulled not once but twice! twice he ducked him. Again we take the facts and put them in a pile and it seems Marciano is on top again.

6. The only thing we can conclude is that they were big punchers when it came to bums. That's the only thing we can conclude.


7. What is FACT is that Rocky never lost. Fat old Sanders smashed Wlad a prime Rocky,hardest hitter ever, would to do Wlad..it'll be slaughter.


8. You've just said Rocky balance was good so superior is his footwork that only if he got hit by modern HW punch it it would be shattered. What we can take from this is that you agree Rocky balance was superior but that also contradicts your "boxing has progress" theory. We also learn that while you agree Rocky has great balance you cannot prove that it wouldbe shattered by a modern HW puncher as he has never been KO'd before.

Only conclusion: Grover thinks Marciano footwork is superior to modern fighrers.


The term "REAL" HW holds no weight in this conversation. None. Because they were not of the same era. The only real conclusion is that Rocky beat every 200+(Current HW limit) so that disproves what you said.

Louis is overrated and a joke? Again the stupidity and trollness of your posts is amazing. Louis is held higher by every boxing expert in the world then Wladimir Klitschko.

 

I just can't help but think that the wily and defensive genius (I'm not being a smart ass here) Wlad will put his anvil-laced jabs in Marciano's face every moment of every round until Marciano is stopped. Wlad has learned more from his 3 KO losses than any fighter has learned in history. Wlad is just too big and too strong for the powerful Light cruiserweight Marciano.

Wlad 240 lbs, 81" reach vs Rocky 190 lbs, 67" reach. I mean come on, seriously.

 

Vitali holds the WBC belt for so long because he doesn't fight the champ or any ranked guys and the Wlad is the champ because he doesn't fight the no.1 or no.2.
Its a joke of a situition. Its likely Wlad never see's the hall of fame.

 

For one that has made a brand of idiocy, you can still surprise.

 

I dont know any hall of famer who had help getting to and staying at the top. Somebody who fought the hard fights for him and rematched his losses. Concessions wont be made for Wlad.