Wladimir Klitschko vs. Rocky Marciano

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by cross_trainer, Aug 18, 2009.


Who wins?

  1. Wlad PTS

    17 vote(s)
    15.9%
  2. Wlad KO

    64 vote(s)
    59.8%
  3. Rocky KO

    23 vote(s)
    21.5%
  4. Rocky PTS

    1 vote(s)
    0.9%
  5. Draw

    2 vote(s)
    1.9%
  1. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    He did, thats true, but as far as I'm aware he didn't say either would definitely beat the other in a h2h.

    Also I'm almost certain he didn't pick any of the post 60's Middles to beat SRR.
     
  2. jowcol

    jowcol Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Greetings Foxy, thanks for the SRR tribute. Good to know that you and a host of others recognize Ray's legacy. Gee, based on your tribute he would have had to have had one hand tied behind his back to lose.
    Not to mention the 'era' difference.
    Your "moron" references to Rocky fans is an insulting attack and totally unwarranted.
    As I said, a 2002 Wlad vs. a 1952 Marciano? A beatdown, I gave you that.
    But as I, and others, have asked.
    A Wlad born in the 20's vs. a Rock born in the 60's yields a different fighter and, perhaps, a different result in a mythical matchup.
    I simply don't understand why you call any discussion on this as mere "speculation"?
     
  3. Seamus

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    What year is your IROC?

    I know a guy named Tony who has some spare parts to sell.
     
  4. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    A head to head does not properly consider what a guy might look like in another era, with better or worse childhood nutrition, etc. That might change the fighter's style, & he might even lose certain attributes when gaining others.

    But even if not, a head to head is only meaningful if you consider all capacities when each man was at his real life best.
     
  5. Seamus

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    I've read a few Marciano books and seen documentaries and articles on the Klitschko upbringing.

    If either of the two families suffered caloric privation, it was the Klitschkos living in a one room Russo army shack while daddy tried to quell Cherynobl. Meanwhile look at the rotund physiques of Momma Marchegiano and fratello Pietro.

    Stifle this **** for real.
     
  6. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Congratulations on your 13th post.
     
  7. mr. magoo

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    Klitchko by stoppage early. Too many physical advantages and a smart outside fight game. Marciano wouldn't get close to Wlad's chin or body and every time he came in, he'd be instantly tied up. If the three knockdown rule were in effect, it could very conceivably end before the sound of the first bell.
     
  8. Bummy Davis

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    Vlad did not KO Mormeck early nor the last guy he fought so I doubt he would stop Rocky early. Vlad certainly has size advantages but Brewster and Peter were only an inch or so taller. Weight would be a variable depending on which era they fought.
     
  9. HerolGee

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    rocky stops wlad early, this is a joke.
     
  10. mr. magoo

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    Both of those men were beaten inside of five rounds and the Klitschko who fought them was no longer prime.
     
  11. Seamus

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    I'm still waiting for that slow footed, slow punching, 185 pound come forward power puncher to liberate this current division from its doldrums. I just never see such perfect specimens walking the streets... Must have been a once in a millennium talent that Rock...
     
  12. HerolGee

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    to be fair, if Wlad sticks to his game and with a cheat ref called Ottke something he could perhaps tie up rocky long enough to be gifted a win in Germany.
     
  13. mcvey

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    That's right ,Brewster was only 6'2" 228lbs, and Peter 6' 2" 240lbs, negligible size difference to Rocky.:lol:

    But aren't you forgetting the "weapons that are available to Vlad " ? You remember, the weapons you spoke of on the Wlad v Johnson thread .

    I'm thinking principally of his vaunted " Impaler Punch":yep
     
  14. slender4

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    These threads comparing a modern-day HGH/Steroid trained athlete to a 1950's guy 60 lbs. lighter than him are totally silly.

    Here are a few for you for you:

    "Who's would win a 100m, Usain Bolt or Jesse Owens?????"

    "Who win win a 100m butterfly, Micheal Phelps or Johnny Weissmueller????"

    Who would win a game of one-on-one, Shaquille O'Neal or George Mikan???"
     
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  15. HerolGee

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    YOu are only looking at the part of history that supports your point, not the whole of it.
    Who wins a marathon when men were fitter and stronger than in the 20th century, today athlete or yesterdays soldier?
    Your evolution theory is fundamentally flawed.

    furthermore, a skill game is not dependent on progressive improvement in results of diminishing returns. It tends to ebb and wax over the decades.