Probably, but it shouldn't take anyone more than a few seconds of watching film to know that Dempsey was the better balanced of the two. For all that it can be argued that Marciano was a more affective fighter.
The only area you can compare Dempsey and Marciano is as a puncher. In just about every other department Dempsey was superior. Both ATG hwt champions both with ATG attributes but Dempsey fought at a higher level technically.
Marciano clearly had superior stamina, has provided proof that he carried his stamina later, certainly remained more concentrated and focused on fighting when he came to the title, and fought superior opposition. SO, disagree.
Dempsey was a very well trained athlete. He fought 15 solid rounds in blistering heat to beat Gibbons. Dempseys work rate early on in a bout was higher than Rocky so the issue you mansion may be a question of pacing rather than conditioning. Dempsey did all he could to fight Wills. Wills stated himself that he laid not blame on Dempsey that the fight did not come off. Instead it was the promoter s and managers that prevented the bout from occurring which was very true.
Yes, but after the first four Gibbons was in none of the danger Walcott was in the thirteenth of his contest with Marciano; Dempsey had good stamina, nobody has said otherwise. But Maricano's stamina appears superior on film. No he didn't. I have no idea why you've said this out of the blue, but it's right up there with "the US did all it could in WWII". And again, it's nonsense. He didn't go to Cuba to fight. He didn't go to France. He didn't tell his management "get me Wills or I retire". He didn't offer to fight Wills in London. He didn't go an organised campaign to up Wills as the man who should fight him next in the press, stressing that it would be safe. He might, or might not have tried hard to fight Wills, but what you have said is untrue and very easily refutable.
Again Wills himself stated years later that Dempsey was in no way responsible for the fight not coming off. The Man HIMSELF stated this as fact. Who are you to say otherwise? Do you blame Ali for not fighting Foreman a second time? I don't. Fighters fight and let their managers and promoters set up bouts. Just the fact that Dempsey TRIED to set up a bout with Wills and signed to fight him at least twice perhaps three times shows he went WAY WAY out of of his way to try to make the bout occur. He tried to circumvent the powers that be to make the bout happen but all for naught. just the simple fact that a fighter ANY FIGHTER stepped forward to physically make a bout occur that was not going to happen otherwise is worthy of great praise not ridicule. The PROOF is within the words of Wills years later. He stated he knew Dempsey had nothing to do with his title shot not occurring. This statement ends all debates.
I HAVEN'T said otherwise. This exchanges is two posts old. How can you already be confused? YOU said that "Dempsey did all he could to fight Wills." I said that he did not - now you're saying that I said that Dempsey was responsible for the fight not coming off. Why do you think the two even follow?
Did Lewis ever miss a punch by several feet and fall over on his face as a result of it? Marciano was pitcher, not a batter I read. His arm went on him.
Aside from the fact that is always easier for a lumbering giant to look somewhat clumsy than a short compact guy in ANY walk of life,not just sport. Lewis didn't have worse balance than Marciano. Show me a 6' 5" 240 lb Fred Astaire and I'll show you a freak.
Fighters miss punches all the time. Its not always down to having bad balance. Lewis was tripping over his own feet against Tony Tucker and Bruno. When did Rocky fall flat on his face?
Have a look on You Tube. Do you think Marciano purposely targeted arms ? He was very inaccurate with his shots. A sign of good balance is when you miss you are still in a position to protect yourself. Check out Marvin Hagler, Jose Napoles,Don Curry ,Ray Leonard,Billy Conn. Marciano had very bad balance which, given his short centre of gravity is curious.
Yeah, against Who? Yeah, to bring down his opponents guard. Kovalev does it today. You don't have to be lesser than those guys to be labelled with having terrible balance. Im looking at him and it was nowhere near terrible. You don't become a volume puncher with terrible balance as that is the major component needed to string a long succession of punches together. And Marciano was one of the best attrition fighters in history.
Yet he still managed to find his target and knockout every ring magazine top 10 contender he ever faced and recorded 6 knockouts over first ballot hall of famers Jack Dempsey never proved his "exceptional" balance against elite fighters like Marciano did Dempsey is an unproven commodity
