Wladimir Klitschko vs. Rocky Marciano

Ridiculous... Wlad jabs and mugs Frazier to a late round stoppage.

Tyson (and Frazier) consistently presented something Marciano never displayed... Speed and Balance. It is the only way a small heavy can walk the tightrope to victory in the modern era.

And lastly, "Rock is gonna break that glass jaw EVENTUALLY"... For Rock, eventually better happen within 2 or 3 rounds because Wlad was expert at grinding down opponents with that ridiculous power jab and his superior strength...and he likely hit a helluva lot harder than Marciano, certainly harder than Old Men like Walcott and Moore.

That's all the rational education I am providing today... Carry on.

 

Marciano was a far better tactician then Sanders and Brewster and a hell of a lot busier. Also had power in both hands. Frazier would destroy Wlad even more because he was susceptible to the left hook. Why do you think Wlad never fought Sanders again? Didn’t want to break that glass jaw of his again.

 

At 6'4" with a 77inch reach and appreciably faster hands,I'd imagine Sanders found it easier to land on Wlad's chin than Marciano would.

 

Possibly, but he wasn’t exactly that skilled at closing the gap. Did nothing special in that fight to get past Wlads jab. He more just kind of fought back unlike most of wlads competition. If you were willing to take a few shots against Wlad and you had a powerful left you could beat Wlad.

 

In what world was Marciano a better taction than Sanders? Sanders had power in both hands too. For sure.

When was Wlad susceptible to a left hook? How does Frazier beat Wlad when he specialised in the exact thing Ali used to win in the 2nd fight?

Wlad never fought Sanders again coz Sanders was destroyed by Vitali in his next fight and retired.

 

Marciano wins, Wlad too chinny and Marciano too proven to get to the chin. Wlad's fancy muscles mean little in my eyes, I think Marciano was comparably athletic

That's the extent I'm going to go in this thread

 

To be fair Wlad would probably find it harder landing his right on Marciano than he did on Sanders.
The problem for Rocky is his size and stature, and lets not pretend it wouldn't be a factor.
Wlad laid all over Povetkin,it wasn't pretty and it sure wasn't entertaining ,but it was effective,why couldnt he do that to Rocky?If Rocky couldn't dominate the inside work he ain't winning this fight and having a 240lbs+ guy leaning on you will tire even the fittest man .

Rocky was not only tiny compared to Wlad ,he wasn't any kind of speed merchant ,or particularly elusive either.
It really is a very big ask picking him here.Because of his better speed and more bulk I'd give Frazier a better chance but again its a hell of a hurdle to overcome and Wlad was a very big banger when he set himself.
After several rounds of tugging and mauling,with Wlad being ultra cautious,I see Wlad begin to let his hands go and Rocky start to falter.I think the ref would rescue him around the 8th/9th round.

 

Marciano has literally no way of getting past the jab.

 

Several things
Have you watched sanders fight lately? He was a stand up straight kind of guy and did nothing special in regards to boxing tactics. He relied on his hand speed and power. But as far as closing the gap on Wlad he did nothing special other then walk straight in.
If you go back and watch Sanders and Brewster fight it was the left hook that hurt Wlad once they got in range.
That was an out of prime Frazier. Although the tactic worked I wonder if it would have worked the first fight? Also Ali had a lot better chin then Wlad.
Sanders didn’t retire till like four or five years after he fought Wlad. Although his brother won a year later I wouldn’t call it a compete destruction.

 

Head movement. Exploding forward. 3 opponents inferior to Marciano got past it. Stop smoking

 

Povetkin fight is the only thing that makes me think Wlad could get a decision if fought the perfect fight. But I do have a feeling he will get blasted with low blows and head butts if he attempts to illegally hold him all fight. That and Marcianos uppercut was used far more often then Povetkin threw his. Povetkin also didn’t attack the body as Marciano would. But that tactic by Wlad is extremely dirty and boring to watch. Surprised many didn’t retaliate more against him.

 

Wlad owned the heavyweight division longer than Marciano had a boxing career. Think about this before spouting off nonsense.

 

>Assuming Marciano had good head-movement

And a good 12 fighters better than those 3 didn't. Also, none of those 3 actually got past his jab, they either capitalised on him being green or an off night or countered his right hand. No-one actually got past Wlad's jab. Neither Haye or Povetkin (both superior fighters, fundamentally, especially with head-movement and closing the gap to Marciano) had a minute of success against Wlad. Hell, even Joshua couldn't get past a shot to ****, inactive Wlad's jab. Povetkin, also stronger than Marciano, was thrown around like a school child.

Wlad jabs, grabs and lands consistently enough to get a late stoppage or very very clear UD. Marciano's stamina advantage means little when he can't land anything at all or work inside or avoid Wlad's massive power.

 

With 9 inches of reach over Rocky, Sanders could fight a totally different fight against Wlad.

 

His best win was Chris Byrd, think about that before spouting nonsense.