Wladimir Klitschko vs. Rocky Marciano

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by cross_trainer, Aug 18, 2009.


Who wins?

  1. Wlad PTS

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    15.9%
  2. Wlad KO

    64 vote(s)
    59.8%
  3. Rocky KO

    23 vote(s)
    21.5%
  4. Rocky PTS

    1 vote(s)
    0.9%
  5. Draw

    2 vote(s)
    1.9%
  1. Niels Probst

    Niels Probst Member banned Full Member

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    Let me be more precise, because you may not have understood my question: Rocky gets floored by a 42 year old lightheavyweight, and has his nose split by a former 34 year old lightheavyweight. What do you think would happen, when Wlad connetcs with a left hook to RM's head? Or do you believe, Wlad, during 15 rounds, wouldn't connect? Dear Ms. SS, I think you should wake up from your fairytale thoughts. Lots of love from Niels.
     
  2. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    It is not clear to me that people are nostalgic to this extent.
    Wlad has never fought someone as light as Marciano in his career, and Marciano has never fought someone as heavy as Wlad in his career.
    Would anyone bet me against Wlad?
     
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  3. hdog500

    hdog500 New Member Full Member

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    In the meantime they have an ignore function which I just used on him.
     
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  4. Boxing_Fan101

    Boxing_Fan101 Undisputed Available bookgoodies.com/a/1068623705 Full Member

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    If Wlad comes out and trades he has the power and size to blast out the much smaller Marciano

    If he decides to take his time and outbox him again he can without any issues

    Either way it’s up to Wlad how he approaches the fight he has about 8 inches in height and 60-70 lbs of muscle on the Rock it would be like watching a featherweight against a Middleweight
     
  5. Shay Sonya

    Shay Sonya The REAL Wonder Woman! Full Member

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    Oh I think I understand. Your posts to me are dripping very loudly with things I understand only too well... :risas3:
     
  6. Shay Sonya

    Shay Sonya The REAL Wonder Woman! Full Member

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    Since you asked nicely, the answer is no. I am not betting on this fight.

    Anything could happen in one fight as weird as this one.

    Maybe Rocky would break Wladimir down or shake him to his core and make him go into his shell. Maybe Wladimir would have problems against the smaller man, and find it very difficult to land anything consequential on Rocky. Then again, maybe Rocky would not be able to penetrate Wladimir's jab and get his face cut to ribbons. If Wladimir wins I would expect it to be on cuts. If Rocky wins I would expect it to be by getting in close, making Wladimir miss on the way in, and pounding at the body before firing up at the head, with the power of his his legs under the shots.

    Wladiimir's size advantage is there, but I do not assign height and weight as the deciding factor, even at the World Championship level. If size was always the determining factor, we would never have had Tommy Burns, or Jack Dempsey beating up Willard, or Max Baer beating up Carnera. or Evander Holyfield beating up Douglas, or Oleksandr Usyk beating Joshua for that matter. In fact, if size was the number one factor in boxing, Primo Carnera would have never lost a fight in his entire career. Jess Willard never would have either.
     
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  7. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This isn't a fair match up I don't know why people put a Cruiserweight against Super Heavyweights and somehow think it will be competitive.

    Marciano 5'10 185 pounds 67 inch reach vs Wladimir 6'6 240+ pounds 81 inch reach.

    A complete mismatch and I don't even like Wladimir but do you honestly think Marciano with his T-Rex like arms, and crouching style is going to be effective vs a giant like Wladimir with a ram rod jab and KO power in either hand ? Marciano would be stopped in the 1st half of the fight brutally.
     
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  8. Dynamicpuncher

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    Carnera and Willard are stiffs Wladimir is amongst top 10 Heavyweights of all time and made over 20 world title defences.

    Usyk is a Southpaw and is probably one of the most skilled Heavyweights of all time, and is still not exactly a small man at 6'3 220+ pounds which is not really comparable with Marciano.

    Douglas didn't even train for Holyfield and just showed up for the paycheck when was Wladimir ever not in shape ?

    I just don't see how you envision Marciano being able to "bang away" at Wladimir's body ? Marciano has a 67 inch reach and likes to crouch, how is that going to be effective vs Wladimir at 6'6 with an 81 inch reach ? Wladimir would pulverise Marciano with his ramrod jab and KO him with right hand.

    Wladimir is a giant and was fighting in the era of Super Heavyweight's, Marciano was a Cruiserweight by modern standards fighting against Light Heavyweights/Cruiserweights you can't compare those eras.

    Marciano at 5'10, 185 pounds, 67 inch reach, wouldn't stand a chance against the modern elite Super Heavyweights, and if people honestly think Marciano beats elite Super Heavyweights I have to say you're being very nostalgic.
     
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  9. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Nobody said size was the number one factor in boxing but there are weight classes for a reason.

    Guys like Willard and Carnera were a far cry from Wlad, and quite simply weren’t very good. I’d expect Marciano to wipe the floor with those two, along with a multitude of Wlad victims.

    also the size difference between Usyk and Joshua is a lot less than the size difference between Marciano and Wlad.

    Usyk also has a good 40 pounds on Rock, and make him look silly by comparison.

    The problem here is Marciano is facing a guy who has nearly a foot of height on him, nearly 60 pounds or so, ALONG WITH the fact that he’s much faster, better skilled and would smother Marciano every time he’d try to get inside.
     
  10. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This.

    Theres a difference between being a big man and being an elite big man.
     
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  11. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    I agree Carnera was simply not very good, and didn’t know how to generate power.

    Watching a guy with a physique like he had, hit like a powderpuff never fails to make me hysterical.

    He’d get laughably crushed in today's division, and most half way decent cruiserweights, maybe even some light heavies would wipe the floor with him.
     
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  12. Niels Probst

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    Well, you clearly don't want to give an exact answer...
     
  13. Niels Probst

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    Marciano would be stopped within 45 seconds... He was that small and that bad.
     
  14. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    @Niels Probst I'd appreciate if scum like you didn't like my posts. Now I have to rethink everything.
     
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  15. Niels Probst

    Niels Probst Member banned Full Member

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    Hm, well, young friend ;) - Why do you consider me scum just because I don't find Marciano very good?