Wladimir Klitschko vs. Rocky Marciano

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by cross_trainer, Aug 18, 2009.


Who wins?

  1. Wlad PTS

    17 vote(s)
    15.9%
  2. Wlad KO

    64 vote(s)
    59.8%
  3. Rocky KO

    23 vote(s)
    21.5%
  4. Rocky PTS

    1 vote(s)
    0.9%
  5. Draw

    2 vote(s)
    1.9%
  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    the fight would never even be sanctioned such is the scale of the mismatch.
     
  2. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    That does not pertain to the statement i made.
     
  3. Garrus

    Garrus Big Boss 1935-2014 Full Member

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  4. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Untill i see Wlad beat somebody who is aggressive ,moves well, has fast heay hands and isn't afraid to get stuck in i wont be convinced otherwise. As it stands Wlad has lost to fighters with that criteria.
     
  5. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Rocky was far greater than all of the men that beat Vlad in fact some of the men Rocky beat were greater than the men that beat Vlad, however I do recognize an improvement in Vlad and he is getter better with each fight.

    Vlad has some great advantages and size is one of them but I am afraid that even with the size difference Rocky would always be greater than Brewster, and Purity and hit harder, Sanders was an avoided and dangerous guy, Big Southpaw with fast hands and he may have also been able to upset Lennox Lewis with some actual conditioning and the element of surprise but all 3 are far away from what Marciano would bring,relentless Aggression, one punch power and heart.

    While I do recognize that Vlad is one of the 3 best Big men to fight and the experience he has gained in his last 15 fights there would be other important factors in this fight, the distance 15 round? and are we plucking Marciano out of a decade from over 60 years ago where training to make weight was important for even a heavyweight that had to fight championship rounds and if so can we also be fair enough to reverse-evolve Vlad to an era 60 years ago where some of the modern weight training and weight gaining and muscle building did not exist ...either way this is not an easy fight for either man prime vs prime..Vlad has an excellent rhythm over 12 rounds and a GREAT defense but Marciano was one of the greatest Rhythm breakers with his unorthodox punching which was one of his underrated talents especially against the defensive wizards and he could always land a right hand like he did vs Rex Layne or Walcott or a hook like he dropped Charles and Matthews and Moore, and Marciano was a danger for 15 rounds, yes these were smaller men but a chin is a chin and this fight would be a super fight in Rocky's era or present...
     
  6. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ...He's right...
     
  7. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The idea is all I am hearing is how big Wlad is in comparison to Marciano. I am just pointing out that if you look at the all time greats, which Marciano certainly is, you don't see any of them losing to fighters that are much bigger. Add to this that Wlad was Koed brutally three times. He was Koed by Ross Purity for Gods sake! Not just KOED but the kind of KO where everyone watching laughs at how the loser stumbles all over himself all over the ring. In fact every time he was KOed it looked like he wanted to quit. This guy is beating Rocky Marciano? I think the real question is.....When Marciano stops him does he quit first or does his corner rush into the ring to save him from punishment?
     
  8. Garrus

    Garrus Big Boss 1935-2014 Full Member

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  9. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Wow. You are adept both at comprehension of others' arguments and developing your own.

    Yes, everyone is saying Wlad is big, therefore he wins. They are not saying he is giant (stronger, longer and heavier) AND hyper skilled or that he has had a period of dominance over the division longer than the Rock's actual career spanned, a career largely spent toiling on the local NE circuit (60% of fights in the SAME CITY!) fighting off ham and egger light heavies, finally catching the brass ring from a geriatric with a soft beard and defending against a motley crew of ancient lighheavies and a fat Englishman. No, no one is saying that...
     
  10. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Wlad has a 100% win percentage against men less than 220 and 6'2. Therefore, Marciano stands no chance.
     
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  11. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Marciano's size would actually make it harder for Wlad to hit him and easier for Marciano to get close. Throw fast feet and head movement in there aswel. Boxing 101.
     
  12. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    You must've flunked that course.
     
  13. dyna

    dyna Boxing Junkie banned

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    Marciano fights very crouched, getting your head under the belt isn't allowed.
    Wlad by DQ.
     
  14. Garrus

    Garrus Big Boss 1935-2014 Full Member

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    I wonder how he takes Wlad's jab, nevermind the right hand.

    I think Wlad goes for a quick K.O here.
     
  15. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No one is saying Marciano is going to win because he is smaller meathead. You are saying that Wlad is too big for Rocky and I am accurately pointing out you would be hard pressed to find an all time great hwt champion that lost to a fighter because said fighter was bigger. Wlad can't take a punch and his courage s highly questionable. Marciano knocks him out.....or perhaps he quits.