Wladimir Klitschko vs. Rocky Marciano

So Wlad wins by turning into a giant snake.
This manga fellow talks so much crap i question the authenticity of his claims.
A fair and neutral ref isn't going to allow him back ride him and lock him up for as long as he pleases. He'd be DQ'd.
Everytime he'd initiate the clinch hed have his ribs caved in followed by elbows , butts , uppercuts, chest shots.
Rock would tie up as well but the difference Wlad wouldn't be hitting , Rock would , with short power shots more lethal than Wlads long range punches.

 

Dino how much boxing have you done? I'd hazard a bet that magna is much more qualified than you in this matter.

 

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i wouldnt **** with him...

 

Rocky wasn't terribly fast on the inside and prefered a bit of range to his wind em up, rock em, sock em robots swings.

 

You've gone from dumbass to douchebag.

...or to the greatest troll of the last 93 pages.

 

dare we say he's even better than anglosaxon

 

Somehow I've got the terrible feeling dino actually believes all the crap he's spewing. I think the guy needs mental help personally.

 

Firstly, Im not taking anybody seriously when they say Wlad wins by way of his "anaconda routine". Secondly , where's the valour in claiming a victory in sunch a way. His postings dont match his claims , and if you want to lap up everything he says , more luck to ya , dont throw a tantrum because i dont.

 

Jack Johnson and latter day Ali won plenty of fights through the clinch. It's part of the game.

 

Bump.

 

Today, I learned that I have amazing, physics defying hair, and I scream a lot.

Muscles are about right though :smoke

And, no, I don't think there is "valor" in winning bending the rules, or whatever. But I do know its a fight, and **** gets done in there to win a fight, or outpoint your opponent, or whatever you have to do.

To quote George Foreman, "The referee is the most important man in the ring other than the two fighters." What he allows dictates the type of fight that can be fought. I fought a guy about four years ago who absolutely froze with a glove in his face. Straight up froze. So I stuck out my jab, and left it there, in his face, to throw big right hands that just detonated on this guys chin. Dropped him twice. Then the referee started warning me for doing it. Long story short, had the referee let me stiff-arm, I'd have had the guy in the 1st or 2nd. Because I couldn't, I had a harder time "freezing" the guy, and he hung around.

To say that what type of fighting, holding, rough housing tactics are allowed or disallowed by the official doesn't have a bearing on how a fight is allowed to unfold is poor idiocy, and the mark of a guy who doesn't know **** about being in the ring. Wlad has an octopus imitation that allows him to completely neutralize smaller men. If he's allowed to use it at will, he is suddenly MUCH harder to deal with. Period. Ali neutralized Frazier very effectively with holding in their rematch, and when it wasn't tolerated in their rubber match, Joe was able to get to work. Just one example of many.

Rocky also needed some distance to punch. A short puncher, he was not: He wound up, and at times, swung wide. Him getting wrapped up when he gets in range to do any work is gonna stop him from doing work. I also see many low blows, because he'd be a near midget fighting a giant, and I'm told working the body in those situations isn't as easy as it sounds like it would be. That might help him, though, with a laissez-faire ref.

 

Wow. 95 pages now.

Wlad Vs Mickey Walker anyone? Would he land a right hand as good as Schmeling? No way would he be able to contain 'The Toy Bulldog' in a clinch, Walker would rough him up.

 

Wlad's definitely benefited from a ref who doesn't penalise his excessive clinching, but even under neutral rules he still mercs Rocky with that jab and footwork. Fighters with much quicker feet that Rock have found it extremely hard to close distance with Wlad, and Rocky was a guy who liked to set his feet when he threw, minimising his general mobility. Wlad would have to do his best Helenius impression to give Rocky a chance here, and that would be taking away almost all of what makes him the fighter he is.

 

Jesus, anybody remember Lennox Lewis' favorite combo? Grab the back of his opponent's neck and throw an uppercut?

And to accuse Waldo of breaking the rules while turning a blind eye to Marciano's head butting and elbows is just a proclamation of ignorance and/or absolute bias.

 

I do agree. Wlad isn't an aggressive fighter, but when he has a stationary opponents(Rocky doesn't have great head movement, and what defense he does have is countered by his tremendous aggression, which always puts him in harms way) like Tony Thompson, Mormeck, Chambers, he opens up. He be throwing punches at Rocky, landing them at range, and probably throwing him around with his left arm. I don't think Rocky can take many big right hands and left hooks on the button from a colossal puncher like Klitschko.

I do NOT think we can ignore that he'd be a cruiserweight in the ring in this fight. A cruiserweight with Rocky's style is just gonna have a lot of trouble. He's obviously better than Mormeck in just about every category, and by quite some distance, but it is worth noting that fighters like Mormeck and Chambers, Ibragimov and Chagaev(Who were both bigger and longer than Marciano) couldn't do ANYTHING; They couldn't be competitive, they couldn't land punches, they couldn't dictate the pace, they couldn't do squat. Rocky, though better than they are, I don't think fares a whole lot better because of similar physical limitations. I see it as just a step too far.

Rocky Marciano is a great heavyweight, top 10 all time, in heavyweight HISTORY, but the division outgrew him, and he wouldn't even compete in it today. He'd be the greatest cruiserweight of all time, though. Would have loved to see him and young Holyfield duke it out.