Wladimir Klitschko vs. Rocky Marciano

Lets get this straight , Marciano isn't beating Tyson, Lewis of Forman. Wlad is NOT in their league.

 

Rocky Marciano was down two times in his 49 wins,but both time when he went down he comeback stronger.Wladimir never met that type of fighter with that fighting spirit.Marciano never give up and name one fighter who fight Klitschko and would never give up,never stop trying.I know you would say Wladimir is too good so boxers just surrender but they just don't have that magic fighting spirit to beat him.Marciano had one punch KO power.Do you see today cruserweights with that kind of power-you saying Marciano is cruserweight.Do you seee today cruserweight to break complete front teeth with one puch,or Walcot knockout,do you see today heavyweights to do that.Wladimir is strong man but did he ever broke opponents forearms.I don't know who would win,nobody know that but it is not right to say Marciano don't have chance,he never lost fight and It means something.

 

The Doors are just plain ****ing horrible... a third rate version of Love.

 

Yet numerous top level CHAMPION trainers and CHAMPION fighters, who have actually tasted his shots, have claimed he is the hardest or amongst the very hardest hitters they have ever seen.

Oh, yes, I forgot, you have much more cred on the issue.

 

yes he does, that's ludicrous. just cause he gets late round knockouts and is conservative in his attack doesn't mean he lacks power. come on, you know better than that.

if you are going forward with the reasoning that rocky has the same or greater one punch power than wlad, than it is (imo) a critical flaw and assumption in your argument that will taint all your conclusions

 

It's Rocky whose one punch record is overstated. Marciano landed a bunch of flush, monstrous rights on Walcott during their first fight. It wasn't until Walcott bounced off the ropes and walked into one of those rights that his lights were turned off. And let's be honest, it wasn't like Walcott was any stranger with the canvas... or that he wasn't in the last two fights of a very long, grueling career.

Charles one punch? No. Cockell? No. Louis? No. Moore? No. LaStarza? No. Layne? No. I think you have to dig back to the likes of hype job Harry Matthews, which was still a two left hook finish but I will give him credit.

One good thing about this thread is it has gotten me to rewatch Marciano fights. And I love the guy. Tough as nails, adopted his style to his physical limitations and talents. An epic fighting force.

But he's not equipped... he's just not good enough either... to win this one.

 

Hey, I'm trying to steer this young lad on the right path, not **** on his hopes and dreams. That said, Forever Changes shits on any album by The Doors. Literally and figuratively. When the smoke clears, orriray, you'll wonder... "'successful hills are here to stay?' ...what the **** was I thinking?"

 

What about all the guys who reported on Rockys power, including Louis , Walcot and Ali. You taking the words of Eddie Chambers over them?

Being conservative in his attack will prove detrimental against Rocky and not a liberty he can afford to take.

 

yeah, he had power. a LOT of power. not as much as wlad. but your statement that wlad doesn't have one punch power is just false.

he is conservative in his attack and it avoids the war you contend will take place. so if wlad is conservation, he gets knocked out? if wlad goes all out, he gets knocked out?

well i guess wlad is ****ed :tong unless he jabs rocky's face in for 8 rounds, wears him down with holds, and lands a dynamite straight right to end it. which is more likely.

 

Wlad has knocked out more men than Rocky has. They both did a pretty good job of concussively kayoing people, too. They each have a huge CV of concussive kayos.

They are both very effective puncher's.

Wlad will have a MUCH easier time hit Rocky then Rocky will him. That's kind of the basis for the pro-Wlad analysis, if you've been reading. Gimme a long jab and straight hand anyday; It's the easiest combination to land if you have the range and speed in boxing.

Fact is, and it is a FACT: Marciano primarily used accumulation and beatings to finish fights. Wlad primarily got his stoppages with big knockdowns and concussive knockouts. If effect on opponent is the measure, Wlad is clearly the harder puncher. Go through each of their fights on film, it's there to be seen.

Rocky only has a handful of true stoppages off of one punch. Wlad has about ten. To say that he doesn't have power is ludicrous. He hit just as hard, if not harder, than Lennox Lewis and David Tua. Did they have one punch power by your definition?

 

Rocky was NOT that easy to hit.
If Wlad punches down on and misses then gets cought by Rock punching from a crouch with a full body'd thrust he's getting put to sleep on the spot.

 

wait wait...the taller man with the SIGNIFICANTLY longer reach and the all time great jab, who also happens to be far superior technicality with a straighter right hand and much better acuracy will have an easier time landing?!

that sounds reasonable and based on facts...dino is allergic to that you insensitive *****

 

so if wlad, the technically superior fighter, swings and misses cartoonishly and throws himself (amazingly) off balance and completely vulnerable AND rocky leaps 8 inches with full force and nails wlad with a right hand, he'll knock him out?

in this scenario, why doesn't he just throw a ****ing fireball or sonic boom?

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Marciano hit on the move for the most part, when he sat down on his punches and delivered them his opponents were ruined and almost killed.
Wlad needs to set up his big shots from a distance. He does not have that power in close where Rock will be unloading on him.

 

dude where is marciano gonna hit wlad??? on the kneecap?? the balls??