Wladimir Klitschko vs. Rocky Marciano

Lopez was pretty damn good everywhere. Love watching him fight. No weaknesses, all strengths. Only thing you could say he didn't have was top flight athletic ability and strength for his size.

 

I think Holmes would be able to out box him too.

If you have power and fast hands then you have a great chance.

 

Chag was hit by right hands countless times, somethimes he eat the right hand lunging in where the surge of engery on impact was double what most other guys got but he managed to carry on.......What makes you think Rock is going to fell on the first right hand he takes.....What decent fighter has Wlad ever one punch knocked out?...................Chag was not a great boxer. He had no idea how to cut off the ring and kept plodding forward head first.... What didn't work for him doesn't mean sucess wont come to anybody else.....

 

not seen it for a while but didn't wlad drop him early on?

I think that was my point. his jab and 1-2 was immense.

 

Wait, You're suggesting Rocky over 49fights was only hurt in one round in one fight? I rest my case.

Lol at how you cling onto other peoples opinion.

Wach oh ye ye ah uh ah uh yea yea of course

Foreman(And Holmes too I think) said Frazier beats Klitschko.
Ali said Marciano was better then Frazier.

 

Does the ref then declare himself the winner?

 

Thats all he has is a 1-2 and against great fighters thats not enough....Holyfield by sidestepping, waeving in and under, countering, slipping, would have a field day expoiting his one dimensional style.....Ali would pepper his face with combinations faster than he could throw his jab........Wlad got no head or upper body movement whatsoever and the fact he's not proven at Elite level cant be disputed.....People say he's one of the best h2h. He went real life h2h with Purity , Brewster and Sanders and got brutally undone.

 

i pick both holy and ali to beat him.

also he proved he had upper body movement against haye, quite a lot of shots he avoided due to good movement.

 

Perfectly put Magna, my thoughts exactly. When I think about Wlad I always think that his greatest strengths are his greatest weaknesses. Not only do you need the skills but you need the right temperament to get through that wall of a range controlling jab. This is what deters me from confidently picking Liston. He could be pestered, and I'm not exactly confident he has the mental fortitude and fleet-footedness to get the job done. No, I don't quite think Liston can outjab Wlad either considering he's at a height and arguable speed disadvantage.

 

I think Brewster set the bar for what beats wlad, somewhere between Brewster and Peter.

You need head movement, a true frame 6' 200+ pounds. A good chin, huge power and immense heart.

Wlad will beat up these guys until they outlast and it takes something special to take that kinda punishment and still have enough to finish a fight.

 

Does that same fighter beat the Wlad who went on his run over the past seven years? In fact, that same fighter was KO'd by Wlad after the fact.

I still think that's the basic blue print. But add some speed, like that of Tyson, and you have a great recipe to beat him. Easier said than done, tho.

 

Sooooo BE or boggle, can you wrap this up?

 

Honestly, wlad has rarely looked better than he did in the first 4 against Brewster.

I also think the eye problems need to be taken into account, especially when his game plan was too watch out for wlad's right, duck under it and unleash a left hook.

So yeah, put Brewster from that night in with any version of wlad and i think wlad gets stopped.

wlad had a bad 60 second spell in the fight, other than that he looked just as good as he ever did and ever would.

Sanders is anomalous, noone else fights like him. Purrity caught a young man not used to the distance. Brewster provides a blue print.

 

The Brewster fight was wild. I've NEVER seen a top shelf heavyweight gas in 60 seconds. One minute, he's beating Brewster up, next minute, he can't breathe, he's eating big shots, and he looks like a zombie.

Wild fight.

Can't say I see it as a blueprint, honestly. It hasn't ever happened again.

Sounded like whining excuses at the time, but I think there might be something to Wlad's claims he was some kind of sick that night. I've not seen anything like that in my years in boxing. He was literally done, without eating a big punch, in the span of a half a minute.

And before anybody accuses me of bias, Lamon Brewster is a personal friend, Wlad is not. He was made of iron that night, and fought bravely, like a true champion. I still think he might have legit caught Wlad late in that fight.

 

That's when the poison kick in.