Wladimir Klitschko Vs. The ATG's: Their Opponent's Total Combined Wins and Losses.

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You're on crack if you think any of the fighters from the 30's and 40's would stand a chance against Wlad, Ali, Foreman etc.
They're all Hall of Famers because they're old. Haye and Povetkin would KO everyone who Louis got in the ring with.

 

So you're not an anti-Klitschko propagandist, yet you call Wlad ......klitoris? You are so full of hatred for Wlad I can physically feel it in your posts, you don't have the key to understanding who the greatest of all time is anymore than I, you have an opinion and I have an opinion, yet you get nasty real quick over the slightest little thing, so calm down Nobody, because that's what most of us are on this site nobodies.

I'm not a propagandist, I'm presenting a numerical an,alysis of their records and from that perspective Wlad is right there with the ATG's, obviously its very imperfect an'alysis but it should make some realize that the old guys records were fairly shoddy as well. Also the 3 KO's weren't brutal.... they were stoppages nothing more, yet all the Wlad detractors cling to them like their life depends on it, your bias and bigotry against Wlad is so powerful that is doesn't allow you to comprehend he is edging toward breaking Holmes and Louis' records, that in and of itself is reason to be considered a great. He is not being given the credit he deserves, and that isn't fair.

 

What I'm trying to say Nonito is, we live in a different time, boxing is not that popular and the media do not care. Most the greats that fought back in the 30's and 40's were the modern day equivalent of Ward and Gatti, as in they caught the casual fans imagination and the media jumped on board and hyped which is exactly what they always do, but like Gatti and Ward outside of the hype they were flawed fighters who lost a lot and for the hardcore fans they will never rank very highly.

There is no way to assess how good those guys were and the small amount of newsreel footage that exists, sometimes only of partial matches, isn't enough to give an accurate assessment of just what quality level they truly were. All we do is listen to what the guys on the radio said, read the old newspapers and watch the shoddy footage, and of course they never had favorites or hyped did they.

If the media cared more about Wlad they would hype the hell out of his opponents, and make them larger than life, but in this cynical computer savvy world we live in, all of the assholes, just like us, debate the greatness away, sometimes before they even
get started. The guys in the 70's were part of a bubble that the media and the world latched onto, they were entertaining and they were promoted well and therefore they became memorable, but they were all flawed and at time s sloppy fighters with terrible stamina.

Wladimir so thoroughly destroys most of his opponents there is no need for a rematch, maybe Wlad should fake it and let Povetkin come close to beating him and he can rematch him 2 more times and it will become an Ali Norton like great trilogy that captures our imagination, but no he destroys everyone who looks viable because he's that damn good, and instead of saying what a good win it is, fans bash it and discredit it 2 seconds after it occurs.


If Ali existed today his victories over Moore and Liston would be laughed at scrutinized, and everyone would say he was beating up an old shot shell of Moore and Liston, and the countless rematches, look at the way Manny and Floyd are raked over the coals if they rematch one or 2 opponents.

 

And how many times did the ATG's get their glass chins shattered? Of the one's I listed 11 in total. :!: I

 

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