Wladimir Klitschko vs Tyson Fury All time

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Joeywill, Aug 23, 2022.


Who's greater

Poll closed Aug 30, 2022.
  1. Wladimir Klitschko

    77.6%
  2. Tyson Fury

    22.4%
  1. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    from a Khan fan
    give over
     
  2. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It is always the "worst era ever"
     
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  3. ShortRound

    ShortRound Active Member banned Full Member

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    Funny then how Wlad also "couldn't pull the trigger" against Haye. Where was this mythical Wlad who was gung ho about pulling the trigger against strong opposition? The one who got destroyed by Puritty and Brewster after gassing out?

    Objective facts about Klitschko-Fury

    The judges gave Fury (the B-side, in Germany) 8 or 9 of the 12 rounds

    Wlad wasn’t given a single round unanimously to Fury’s four (5, 6, 10, 11)

    On a round by round basis, a majority or unanimity of the judges gave Fury 9 rounds to Wlad’s 3

    Fury was the only fighter to be deducted a point for rabbit punching (which they both engaged in) despite Wlad blatantly headbutting Fury and turning his back multiple times to avoid being hit

    Wlad was limited to an all-time record of fewest landed punches for a champion in a 12 round championship fight (52 of 231, 34 of which were jabs, to Fury’s 86 of 371, 48 of which were power punches) according to Compubox, with Fury outlanding Wlad in 11 of 12 rounds

    Reviewers on Eyeonthering gave Fury 10 of the 12 rounds, 8 unanimously or near-unanimously
     
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  4. ShortRound

    ShortRound Active Member banned Full Member

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    You couldn't see Fury beating Christian Hammer or practically ANYONE. It's no surprise that you don't see Fury beating a guy that he beat easily in the guy's backyard.
     
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  5. ShortRound

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    Chisora: 1 world title fight, 0 wins against world champions

    Whyte: 1 world title fight, 2 wins against world champions (Browne, Parker)

    Cunningham: 9 world title fights, 5 wins against world champions (G. Jones, K. Davis, Wlodarczyk away, Huck away, Braithwaite)

    Wilder: 13 world title fights, 3 wins against world champions (Liakhovich, Stiverne x2)
     
  6. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    the amount of incorrect **** in here just wow... beating a former champion is not beating a world champion big difference.
    Wilder has one win against a champion Stivern and even then Stivern was gifted a vacant title and never won one in the ring one of the worse champions in boxing history.

    Whyte 0 wins, Cunningham 0 at heavy, Wilder 1 paper champ at heavy.

    you take away his win against a 39 year old Wlad which even then he ducked the rematch. and Can crusher wilder Fury has a paper thin resume consisting of 1 great but past time heavy in Wlad and an unproven bum crusher who could not box in Wilder. that's it.
     
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  7. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thus why he went to incredible lengths to duck the rematch.
     
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  8. ShortRound

    ShortRound Active Member banned Full Member

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    "beating a former champion is not beating a world champion big difference."

    I didn't say reigning world champion, dickhead.

    Tyson: best win Tucker? KO'd by a fringe contender, Holyfield x2

    Vitali: best win Chisora? Stopped by Byrd on injury and Lewis on cuts

    Wlad: best win Haye? KO'd by a journeyman, two fringe contenders, schooled by Fury, KO'd by Joshua

    Holmes: best win Norton SD? Lost to a LHW x2

    Lewis: best win Vitali cut? KO'd by two fringe contenders

    etc.
     
  9. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You don't get credit for beating soft cherry picked, very, very poor opposition.

    Take quality of opponent's in context. Wilder "title defences" (if you can call them that, I mean it's comically bad) are against such very poor opposition that even Chisora would of easily beaten them all e.g Spzilka and Scott.
     
  10. ShortRound

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    Chisora beat a shot Szpilka but Danny Williams beat a shot Tyson, context matters.

    Scott had no heart but still gave Chisora a highly competitive fight over 6 rounds, many if not most had Scott ahead.

    Chisora referred to Ortiz as a "nightmare" and a "southpaw Mike Tyson". Clearly he had no confidence there.

    Stiverne's dominant wins over Arreola would be 2 of Chisora's top 3. He would have outboxed and KO'd Chisora as he did tough pressure fighter Arreola.

    Chisora would have had a tough fight with Duhaupas and ground out a decision. But even then, Duhaupas did what Chisora and Whyte couldn't do and blasted out Helenius in Finland.

    On paper Chisora just beat Pulev, dropped SD's against Whyte and Parker (I thought he beat Parker) and KO'd Takam. He even gave Usyk a better fight than AJ the first time round in the opinion of many and gave Vitali his toughest fight post-Lewis. So it's not embarrassing that he'd beat most of Wilder's opponents, it's the same for AJ.
     
  11. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    Better resume and champion - Wladmir

    But prime Fury probably wins against him most of the time...
     
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  12. Thunderstorm

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    whats klit best win ?
     
  13. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    Byrd, Prime Povetkin, Chagaev, Haye. - All would probably beat Wilder.

    Regardless of the controversy regarding the Povetkin win, the illegal knockdowns removed would still result in a victory for Wlad.
     
  14. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fury won his belts in 2015

    And only defended TWICE

    One of those opponents was someone he had already beaten

    There's no comparison
     
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  15. Thunderstorm

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    lol